starrymessenger

Behind this line CK would be a disaster. He is pretty much the same guy he has always been. He is playing behind a good line with a run game and good weapons. He would have gotten killed today if a Bill.

Well no not exactly imo. He knew where he wanted to go with it but was hit as he released the ball. Because they were on him like a pack of ravenous dogs on a hamburger.

I agree. My recollection was that when he looked bad under pressure in the preseason he really had no protection at all. Just snap the ball and get after him was all. But that O-line was made up of guys certain to be soon pursuing other employment. Even with Bosa and Ingram I thought Peterman would have more help than that. These guys aren't great but they are supposed to be veteran NFL O linemen. But he didn't have better protection than the scrubs afforded him in preseason. I don't think any pocket passer would have fared any better today. Add to that the absence of Benjamin and Matthews and the kid could only fail.

The colour guys said that the pick on the Thompson looked like a miscommunication. WR cut to the outside. Ball was to the inside.

Hardly the same "average team". How did your guy look last week with THIS team?

They would in that case probably both look better imo. As for the bet, to me its a 50/50 proposition at this point. Taylor has the assets we know about and he is experienced, but he really isn't very good at throwing a football. You clearly win the bet if you are of a mind to write Peterman off as a prospect. Speaking for myself I'm not there already, although I gather many are.

Watched the Rams and Vikes earlier today. Case Keenum, a scheme dependant journeyman QB continued his excellent play. Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure Peterman would have looked a lot better, and maybe even good, behind that line and with the Vikes weapons at his disposal. Last year Keenum was pretty aweful behind a bad line and with fewer weapons. I don't think coach was wrong to start Peterman because he is a fifth round raw rookie. It appears to me that he miscalculated by not taking into consideration just how bad the O-line was in pass pro especially going against a team that can get after the QB. Losing Benjamin and Matthews only made a bad situation much worse, in fact downright impossible to overcome. When Ben and Brady came in as rooks/raw QBs they were surrounded with and supported by much better players than we have on our roster. The nightmare that is this defence probably on its own was enuf to seal our fate as far as competing for the win was concerned. I don't know who coach will or even should start in KC. There really are no good options and I'm not sure which of the two is worse.

not even HoFmers imo

The team was not ready to be starting the rook either.

Disagree. Its a challenge but if he was ever meant to amount to anything he will put it out of his mind. If he cant do that it was never meant to be.

Well at least we know that Johnson and Gove are the result of generations of Conservative party inbreeding. Whats the Bills excuse?

You may be right. You might not. Hard to imagine a worse debut for Peterman for sure. Not sure how much is on him. But we've seen a lot more of Tyrod and imo he is not the answer.

ok ive seen enuf

Its a bad day I know but not imo.

now that was a bad throw

we gonna win

snakebit.

Tyrod is history in Blo for sure. Don't understand how some folks think he could serve as a backup on this team. The scheme is the scheme and he jusr does not fit it. If Peterman can't cut it as a starter he has a better chance of being the backup to the guy with the better tools (hopefully) that the Bills can land in the draft.

For sure they did. Would expect all the teams had some level of scouting there, some more than others. The announcers said even some CFL teams had people there lol. Rosen has some arm. Perfect for a WCO. Wonder if Darnold will ever learn to not turn the ball over.

Cant they trade his rights (option) at any time before he becomes a FA?

Exactly. It was like having literally no offensive line at all. As good as Bosa and Ingram are at getting after the QB, and as suspect as Mils and Ducasse are in pass pro, Peterman will have better protection today. He can work the pocket it would appear, but he needs to actually have one needless to say.

JMO but I think accuracy (and everything that contributes to it) has much more to do with it in Tyrod's case. Thats what (rightly) makes him risk averse. Y'know I like Rosen and Darnold too, but I seriously doubt we get to draft either one of those guys.

Player for player with Jags. They are up against the cap and have a lot of defensive talent.

Its an incredibly small sample size but I think it probably gives us a valid indication of what happens when you "unleash" Tyrod as a passer. Look at his performance in the Pro Bowl, where play is more open and less "disciplined". He made a lovely enzone corner throw for a td if memory serves. He also threw 3 picks. Thats why he doesn't take chances. His coaches know it, and he probably does as well.

200 + yards, 2tds and a pick was also my guess (for what little its worth).