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The real risk and downside here is if Sammy heals up, has a great year (which I would then expect) gets his nose out of joint and refuses to play in Buffalo in 2018 or ever again. Of course the Bills medical staff may know something we don't but his rehab is said to be on schedule. In order to get the payday his talent deserves Sammy needs to show up in 2017. Thats a big reason I see him doing well. Mega money is a huge incentive. If that happens I could see him wanting to ink his big deal somewhere else and getting on with his life.

Yeah passing on Foster was a mistake IMO.

Not what I would do. If healthy he is elite. I think he may well have a monster year - in which case he will almost certainly be gone. Wonder if coach is trying too hard to sever ties with the past and make this his team.

Well I guess if we were looking to tank we could try starting Peterman. Thing is he could well be such a disaster that you would have no choice but to pull him anyway so why bother. And you sure wouldnt be doing the kid any favours. He needs to sit, learn and hone his basic skillset for a year even taking his "pro readiness" into account. Peterman is not ready to see the field in any capacity right now IMO, let alone as a starter.

I remember seeing some close ups of Trent warming up on the sidelines before that MNF game. He did not look right. A deer in the headlights even before the opening kickoff. I said to myself "this isn't going to end well". I don't think there is much risk of Peterman being another Trent. Peterman looks to attack the defence (maybe too much even-may have to learn how to play within himself). Trent was in mortal fear of the opposing D. Totally different animal.

I don't know if Peterman will develop. I dont think anyone knows that yet. He does some things well that are hard to teach/learn and that you don't often see in a young QB. But he will not only have to continue to do those things well - he will have to improve on them. And he will have to be more consistent because his performance is uneven. He can make some great throws but also some lousy ones. When he tries to do too much ball security (piks and fumbles) appear to be an issue. As one would expect, he needs to up his game if he is going to suceed. I don't think he is Trent however and I think he comes to the NFL with a better skill set, better mobility and a much more aggressive frame of mind. Trent was occasionally adequate early in his pro career but he was never a dynamic player. Peterman may be a guy who can make things happen if it all comes together for him.

After looking at his snaps from a number of games I'm impressed with him. Like almost all rookie QBs I see him as a developmental player who is not ready to start on most teams, including the Bills. He might be effective relatively quickly in say the Cowboys O assuming that he can deal with the speed and step up in competition. I think if he was pressured to start too early it could get pretty ugly pretty fast what with the turnovers. In order to succeed he needs to continue to do the things that he already does well but against better competition and he needs to do them with greater consistency than he did in college. That is a pretty tall order, given that his execution can already be spotty at the college level . IMO he is athletic enuf to play the position in the NFL. When his mechanics are good and he sets up properly he looks to me to have enuf arm, not a gun but probably enuf to make the throws. His mechanics are often disrupted by pressure, and some of that is on his O line. His receivers also drop some well placed balls. Don't know how those units were ranked. As with almost all rooks the question is whether he is trending up or has pretty much already reached his ceiling. I don't think you can know the answer to that question until things play out. To me his ceiling is starter, and his floor is low end backup. I'm hoping he can develop of course. He is an interesting prospect.

Their evaluation of Hack is looking spot on too.

Did not follow Peterman but wonder whether or how much of his tape (and the reactions to it) can be explained by the short game I gather was favoured by 'Cuse. Or maybe that was a reflection of perceived QB limitations?

I think its prolly a little early to be closing the book on Peterman's arm strength. In the off-season before his last year with the Rams Brees claimed to have increased his arm strength by 60-70%% (maybe he was exaggerating a little lol) through core strength workouts. And some QBs with good arm's when they came into the league only got better as they matured as physical specimens and players - AR, TB. Peterman is in his early 20's. Even without the benefit of a NFL strength and conditioning programme (the benefit of which of course he will have) his strength should continue to increase till his late 20s. I don't think we should conclude that his arm strength cannot improve, especially if all we are asking him to do is throw with a little more zip for what 20 or at most 25 yards. The deep out relies as much on the receiver running a good pattern and getting the DB to open his hips too early and the QB being able to throw the ball with a quick release, accurately and with anticipation (all of which it sounds like Peterman can do) than arm strength pure and simple. If the only thing standing between Peterman and a starting job is nailing the deep out, I don't think I would bet against him. I wish all these kids the best success but it sure would be an eye opener if Peterman found more success than the guy the Chiefs traded down for.

Well no actually. Whether by unenlightened design or pure chance thats pretty much the way it actually played out.

Well if he turns into a solid long term backup to our 2018 franchise guy that represents an important step forward.

They have got a similar situation in Chicago (except MT went second overall of course). Just signed Glennon to a nice new contract. Wonder how long before Trubby supplants him. One would certainly expect Tyrod to start but unlike some posters I'm not sure how well he will be able to execute a WCO. I would have expected that to present some real problems for him. Peterman on the other hand seems a fit - and we are told coaches get a big man crush on him. We shall see.

I've never seen the guy take a snap. All I know is what I've read, including what I've read here. If all of that is true then I love the pick. Sounds like he already does what teams wait years to find out whether their highly drafted QB studs can learn to do - and usually they are disappointed. Frankly I'm tired of watching athletes trying to play the position - and basically failing. The most valuable QB attributes by far reside above the shoulders, not below, and are all functions of the rare ability to process a lot of information quickly and react accordingly. Sounds like we know Peterman can do that and can do it now. Thats already most of the battle won IMO. If his arm strength needs improving maybe he can work on it. But you don't need great arm strength to be a great QB. Joe didn't have a cannon, but Kyle Boller did. I hear lots of references to Chad Pennington (before his surgery). If Peterman's arm is in that ballpark, it should be good enuf.

I don't know that I'd say Gregory is an ass. To me he is clearly someone with a dependency that he is unable to manage. Given what he is losing out on I'd say he is unable to behave otherwise. That should not inspire scorn but pity. It doesnt help matters that in the broader discussion there is controversy and little consensus on whether pot use should continue to be criminalized with societal standards and attitudes perhaps moving away from this position. What is beyond doubt however is that the synthetic opiods that NFL team doctors readily dispense are a far greater problem and societal scourge. A lot of unenlightened sanctimonious hypocricy from the League if you ask me. They should lighten up the punishment for this. Periodic suspensions may be appropriate but If this is the only problem a player presents he should not be deprived of the opportunity of pursuing his career. Better to live one's life free of all stimulants/depressants, but those who are unable or unwilling to do so generally do not face such serious consequences and many of them are "privileged" with respect to the benefits that they are able to access as the fruit of their special talents.

Yes. With the emphasis on young. NFL quality edge rushers are to young tackles what a major league curve ball is to AAA prospects looking to make the big team in spring training. Look, I like the pick a lot. I think he is a really good prospect and has a chance to play a long time in the league. He is a very good athlete and so we shouldnt be surprised if he learns how to protect the passer. That is certainly not something we will ever see from Mills.

Yes, I can believe he can be effective against the bull rush, but they do say, as others do, that he is susceptible to good edge rushers. He would get more of that on the left side but he would see it on the right as well, especially if he has difficulty adjusting to nfl edge rushers. I think thats probably why some see him as interior O-line, as did the coaches at the senior bowl.

Christian D'Andrea (Superbowl Nation), Fanrags (Kyle Crabbs), Draft Profile NFL.com (overcommits, opens door to looping rushers), underdog dynasty.com (says he grabs, negating his long reach and allowing the defender to maneouvre around him)...Somehow I think you can probably check this stuff out for yourself if you are so inclined. And why would many project him inside (and yes I know about CG) at the next level. Sure he is probably capable of playing right tackle, but dont you think in that case maybe best suited to a power run blocking scheme?Not saying he cant improve his pass pro, hes a good athlete and all of these guys are wip, but right now I dont think there is much doubt that his forte is run blocking.

Just about every source reviewing him says this is a weakness. One reason he got his reps inside at the senior bowl, where he did very well btw.

Right, apparently will struggle in pass pro versus quick outside rushers. Mills is ok in run blocking too but is a turnstile. DD has quick feet, is athletic, gets to the second level and can operate in space. Maybe as some have suggested he winds up replacing Ritchie eventually. Ha ha maybe coach thought he was getting another citizen above suspicion.

Yes

Casserly says he plays slower than his timed speed. Great hands, great body control, good size, very good route runner, great attitude. Zay Jones will be just fine.

Yeah, the slow guy who kept running away from people. 4:45 not too shabby.

Hard work and an outstanding combine.

Definitely not T.J. Will pack on another 15lbs, then think M. Colston. Hes prolly going to develop into a good #2 WR. Tyrod will love this guy.