starrymessenger

I do feel bad for Tyrod. He is a tremendous athlete and a stand up guy. But he's just not an NFL QB. He can and has been effective in the right offence, with the right coordinator and the right playcalls and gameplan. But when it was announced that Dennison was going to run a WC offence, or variant thereof, I was shocked. I could not imagine a scheme less suited to Tyrod's skillset. And if I know that I have to believe that the Bills coaches know that (at least they should by now). They have tried to make him execute from the pocket and there is a reason for that. The reason is that giving Tyrod the "right" scheme and plays may occasionally result in success but it will never result in success consistently, and most notably when it most matters. And that's because any good defensive front, like the Jets or the Saints or the Ravens or any team you are likely going to have to beat to reach the playoffs (and certainly to compete against in the playoffs) can take away what Tyrod does well and force him to do what he does not do well - work from the pocket, "be a QB". If Tyrod could do that he would probably be amongst the best and most versatile signal callers in the game - like Russell Wilson - but he can't and never has, not for a world of trying. Its really unfortunate, tragic even. Surely the braintrust must now understand that Tyrod is out of options. So what do you do? The Bills are 5/4 and still in the playoff race. Every year a couple of mediocre teams, teams with major flaws, make the playoffs. Teams like the Bills. If you stick with Tyrod you pretty much know in advance that you will fail. So why would you go with him? You do it either because you are afraid to ruffle feathers (Tyrod is well liked) or because you are putting your own name on a rebuild and you really don't care what happens this year. Neither of those are good reasons. Organizationally they point to a lack of courage/leadership and to a cynical hypocrisy when they say that they are not tanking and that they have the will to win. What they should do of course, as any reasonable observer not psychologically committed to an agenda fully understands, is start the rook. What he does best is what you want your QB to do in this offence. It is entirely possible, perhaps even likely, that what he does best will simply not be good enuf for a host of reasons. At this point it really doesn't matter because he is your only hope. Not a great place to be but its where you're at regardless. And imo there is some basis for hoping. I really don't care that he is a fifth rounder. I don't care that he is far from being a phenomenal athlete. All that means nothing (or at least not very much) to me. He's a good enuf athlete and has enuf arm strength to execute Dennison's offence. I think there is a possibility that he is smart, I mean the way good QBs are smart. And if he is really really smart I think he can be a good QB. Lets find out.

There is absolutely nothing to be gained from continuing to start Tyrod to season's end. Its unlikely that Peterman could turn things around but it really couldn't get any worse. You could just feel the air going out of the balloon when Tyrod overthrew an open Benjamin twice in the redzone in the opening drive. I think maybe Peterman makes those throws. Ok at least maybe one of them lol. For sure a TD would not have changed the result. Saints are a superior team playng at a high level. Still I do think we would have been more competitive on O with Peterman under center. JMO.

That aging center is exactly the type of player they prefer to a guy like Woods, who is really just now entering into his prime. Remember Kelsay when Jauron was running the show?

I'm having a hard time watching this. Glad for Woodsieand Sammy tho.

Nice catch & td run for Sammy.

And they say he can block too.

No. Only 3 downs. Its a passing league.

Beats watching the Jets and Tampa. I guess.

Agreed.

They know better than that.

Necessarily when he occupies two interior O- lineman. Or even when he doesn't because Thornton and Washington can't even match up one on one.

This is true and pretty much the point that some are missing. There would be many fewer missed/broken tackles if he were there.

Absence will be felt for the remainder of the season. At least. JMO.

I dont think Glenn is right physically. I've never seen him play this badly.

This crew gives the most penalties. They are always in every game.

Fair enuf but there's another take imo. Lots here wanted Mike Williams in the last draft (with reason, and he went high in the first round). Williams and KB are basically the same receiver type. They beat up on smaller corners and win jump balls/ are redzone targets. True Williams is a bit faster but Benjamin is experienced and has already proven that he can not only play but excel in this League and even the most talented rooks have some bust/underperformance risk associated with them. And KB is only 26. So I think we traded a third and a seventh (both bearing some performance risk) for a high first rounder viz the 2017 class at least that is a more proven commodity. And Beane saying that they had a mid- first round grade on him in the 2014 class is saying a lot.The question in my mind is whether Tyrod has the stones to throw it to him when he does not gain much separation.

Right. Thanks for reminding me.

That would be awesome but will never happen. Broncos are high on Booker and see him as the future of their run game.

Been there and done that before (for a likely HOF LT no less). No repeat please.

Exactly. Because he has never shown to be a good enuf passer to be able to do that with any consistency. So for now you have to assume that if he tried he could well turn into a turnover machine. Seems to be the opinion of our coaches/ coordinator as well. But he is not nearly as bad as his most determined critics would say. And I think I see some improvement in his play this year. Used to be that he was more one read and run. Now I think I see him keeping his head up a lot and scanning the field for receiving options when out of the pocket. That adds a dimension to his play imo. In the past I dont think he got much help from his receivers when plays broke down and maybe that has improved a bit as well. Our WR corps is much maligned and lacks a legitimate vertical threat (I dont know whether journeyman Thompson can be that guy) but Matthews, Jones and Holmes are pretty big targets and are not without skill. There is room for improvement in the passing game and who knows we may yet see it. If we do our chances of seeing the playoffs will be much better.

Yeah like maybe his uncle.

Yeah but OTOH there are too many of them in risk management positions.

Right. The storm troopers already have their very own forum on this board. We should all stick to football here.

Watchout for ratface in NY

Loves to show off his pipes.