mikef272002

It was Freddy..

Trade Spiller why..? Because our OC can't find a way to use one of the most dynamic players in the NFL..? Why don't we trade our OC..! Every time a new staff comes in they get rid of a few of the young good players and then get fired 2 years later and we do it all over again..

I think for me anyway the biggest disappointment is seeing the same exact run play called from the same exact formation either going left or right, this is obvious to the defense and is the reason we can't run the ball..I mean if i noticed it after one game imagine the defensive Corr. licking his chops after watching it for 3 games.. Also the lack of getting Spiller in a position in the open to make plays, the middle screen worked wonders last year and I wish they would look at how Chan ran screens and ran the ball w/ Spiller and copied it.. I understand they may be keeping the playbook to a min. for EJ's sake, but you can't tell me you can't find a way to put in some screen plays and better run plays, all he has to do is hand it off...

exactly - They need to ditch the no huddle and give the rookie time to slow things down and think..

- Chan Gailey was the best thing that happened to this team and we ran him out of town - Ryan Fitzy was the best QB we had in a decade and we ran him out of town too - Hackett sucks - EJ Sucks - We will run Spiller out of town - We will run Marcel D. And Mario out of town - We will run Stevie Johnson out of town - We will rebuild every 2 - 3 years for the rest of our lives because we run everyone out of town

^^^ EXACTLY.! Hackett needs to use some different formations in the backfield...I mean that was a midget football running game .. Line The running back to the left of the QB and run ball right side, line RB on right side of QB and run ball left side.. Basic football 101 at midget level... No Use of fullback, no motion, no counters, no pitches , 1 screen play , No draws , and no QB under center.. It was a Dick Juraun ( SP ) ran offense.. I know it was a rookie QB but you could have helped him out by giving the defense a few different looks, and yes by all means I hope they look at last years offense and incorporate some of the formations / motions / and scheme's... Otherwise look for the running game to stay stagnate and EJ to never get to his potential..

No I do understand, and I am not so much dis agreeing, I guess it's just another bad Monday and were all in a bad mood - or atleast I was.. Yes the No-Huddle up-tempo can work, but I don't think a rookie QB will run it as well as Peyton and the days of Jim K out there basically calling their own plays.. I would have liked to see some more motion, more formations and more getting Spiller in the open was my original point.. I don't dis agree with the no huddle, but I think you can help your rookie QB out by giving the defense some different looks... Time will tell and I'm sure they will get better...

True, but a bad 6-10 team can beat a worse 3-13 team... My point is were nowhere near being good even if we "Almost" beat NE "AGAIN".. Because NE is not looking good, atleast not yesterday... They may right the ship and end up 11-5, but I wouldn't count on us getting any ship pointed in any direction soon..

Aren't we tired of "Hoping" every week..? With that said, I "Hope" so too... Oh, so must be it works, my bad..!

I don't see what all the hype is about, we lost to a very bad NE team.. NE looked like a 6-10 team today and still beat us after we had 10 penalties. I agree the Defense did look better than years past, much better but our offense was terrible. And I don't mean the players as much as the scheme, did anyone else notice it was the same EXACT FORMATION THE ENTIRE GAME IN THE BACKFIELD.! And our run plays consisted of the same 2 runs the WHOLE game, either left or right.! It was mis usage of Spiller to get him in the open, no Draw plays, only one screen, no counters, no mis directions, no pitches, just the same run play all game from the exact same formation all game. BLAH, no wounder we couldn't run the freaking ball.!

Poor exCuse of an offense. . It was the same set in the backfield the entire game. . Same run plays either left or right. . No counters no miss direction no fullback no going under center. ... no getting spiller out in the open. . Just bad beat offensive scheme and play calling. .

Ya But these are NFL mats, it's a whole different level..!

Sorry, is this better.... EJ . You do crack me up though...

It was nice to see Manual make some nice reads and some nice throws and the 20 yard or so run he made, but lets be real here....He had some bad throws too, missed 2 easy throws that I remember, locked on to one receiver and didn't take his eyes off him, executed a simple game plan with simple throws for the most part, but did hit a couple difficult throws too. All in all I think he did well executing a simple game plan against a simple vanilla defense. I thought Tuel actually did a better job looking off defenders and made some tougher throws..It's exciting to see the future of these guys but again it was 1 preseason game and I don't feel manual did anything to solidify a starting job.. I would like to see Kolb play a half next game and see where he is at, ahead or behind Manual..

I was 38 when the Bills made the playoffs last, I'm now 25... great first post, Welcome aboard..!

My co-worker and I talk Bills alot everyday, were on here probably 5 or 6 times a day each.

I didn't think Pears was awful.. I actually thought he was doing well when he played. As one poster said he's no all pro, but I think he is good. We can't have studs at every position, I'm fine with Pears or Hariston, whoever wins the job come first game.

Just because he was drafted in the first round of a very weak QB class doesn't mean he is going to be good.. I think some of us pin too high of hope on him, If Kolb gets the starting nod, and plays well he should remain the starter until Manual is ( if ever ) fully ready.. I hope Manual does become a pro bowler, but I also hope he sits / learns / and works on his knowledge and technique before we put him in just because he was drafted in the first round and thats the way its "supposed" to be.. I'll root for which ever QB is in the game and hope they win...

10th - Offensive Line

I love how people think it's just that simple...

Fixed

Well then, I guess its just that simple.. Get fast WR's, get a scrambling rookie QB, and a rookie OC, and you have a top 10 offense because now defense have to line up closer and account for things...Man these defensive coordinators are used to that stuff, they are professionals, they will do things to us that put us on our heels too..I've coached Offense for 7 years, Defensive Corr. will get just as creative as you, just when you think you can put them on their heels they put you on yours..It's a chess game, it really is, its back and forth and you only hope your players make more play then their players.... Just because your QB can do something like run, which many QB's have done before, does not mean the offensive Corr. will use him that way, maybe he runs too much and can't get the ball to the WR's down field, maybe he panics, and then again maybe he takes us to the super bowl..Noone knows until the lights come on...

Lets slow down grasshopper... Didn't we all say the same things about Chan and how he used what he had and designed an offense to work with the players strengths, and we all thought, wow thats really cool we should have a top 10 offense, then we hired Wannsuck and we all thought, gee what an awesome Defense were going to have, imagine the defense that Wannsuck is going to draw up and the blitzes he could do...Ya well none of that worked out did it.. Pettine has never been a full time NFL Corr. He has worked as a defensive corr. under some good defensive coaches, but do you think for one second it was his defense over at the Jets, or maybe rex's..? HHmmmm simple answer, it was rex's.. Just because Manuel is big and is fast and was taken in the first round is not going to make anything of him, this kid reads defenses terrible, scanning half the field before taking off and running.. That = interceptions/ fumbles / sloppyness.. And finally just because a WR is fast don't mean he will be anygood, look at TJ last year, the kid couldnt even get on the damn field..! Show me a 10-6 season and I will begin to believe the hype, until then it's the same Bills with the same holes and the same questions, nothing has changed but the faces..

I dont know why everyone is getting all excited, just because Manuel has speed don't mean he's going to be anygood, the kid could end up sucking, who knows.. Sure the receivers can run, but are they going to get open, are they going to have an offensive Corr. that can get them the ball.? Hackett hasen't done crap in this league, neither had Marrone or even Pettie.. We were all excited and pumped up last year when Wannsuck took over the defense and how did that work out..? Until these guys actually look good, and win games I think they need to prove themselves...And I'm pretty much tired of getting all excited every year just to get smacked in the ass and sent to my bed..... Show me the Damn baby!

We all thought there was a plan in place when Chan and Buddy were hired too. I love the Bills, but I'm not going to get all excited about a coach that built up a crappy college program to a respectable program.. I like the hire, and I love the Bills but until I see production I'm not going to drink anything but beer.