I actually consider myself pretty stingy on my personal HOF votes.
One of my main rules is “if I have to think about it for more than a couple seconds, they likely don’t belong.
I think both of them belong.
I think the reason Wagner took so long is the same reason pitchers like deGrom (statistically superior, but not a lot of wins because their team sucked) never used to win the Cy Young … it took a while for voters to smarten up.
For closers, it’s similar to DHs. They don’t play dull games, so they didn’t get votes.
We’re seeing a shift, which is long overdue.
I think closers deserve consideration more than designated hitters.