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No one could have imagined this 50 years ago....oh wait, maybe Rod Serling.

Guess I misinterpreted what you were trying to say. Thought you were adding him to the list of Clemson busts when your point was not all Clemson receivers taken in round 1 were busts. My apologies.

No way Butler was a whiff. Averaged over 800 yards a year under ground Chuck (interpolating the strike shortened 82 season to 16 games.) ROY in 79, first team all pro in 80. Knee injury in 83 really slowed him down (missed half of 83 and all of 84.) Still, almost 800 yards on a 2-14 85 team, held on to the TD pass that resulted in career ending injury in 86. Buffalo Rumblings had him on the Bills' 50 man all time team (in 2009, probably wouldn't make it now.)

No need for me to read 4 pages of responses when the first one echoed my sentiments. Might depend on what happens with Shaq and the Phillips brothers (one FA, one coming off injury,) but even if all 3 remain Bills I would like to see this pick.

Hey, season is over and the draft is over 2 months away, have to kill time some how. If you're really from Rochester you should get 100% (I did.) https://www.women.com/vanessa/quiz-only-a-true-rocheser-local-can-ace-this-test-can-you?utm_source=wdc_fb&utm_medium=FBsharerbutton&utm_campaign=20170414&fbclid=IwAR2YB1KnhQjK9JbGkj9fLwhinTw6smuWqsC2T3AxDaq0T6anD9pWUkw0VQ8#/results

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The treatment he received was experimental and involved infusing the injury with cooling liquid through his veins rather than applying ice to the outside. Staff had only recently been trained on it, not sure but I think it was that week. They weren't even certain if it would help or hurt.

Kevin Everett is living and walking proof of the high standards of NFL medical emergency standards. Had his injury occurred in the 80's or earlier he may not have lived, almost certainly would not have walked again. A few years ago Golic on his radio show saying how when he played, if someone stayed down after a head hit, the players wanting to help would take the helmet off of the injured player.

Even Rickey Henderson only referred to himself in the third person one way...Rickey.

Like driving, you're responsible for yourself and whoever is in front of you. If you hit someone that's in front of you, it's your fault, end of conversation. I was taken out from behind on the steep part of skyehawk at Killington several years ago. Helpless feeling.

Alta's ski only policy was taken to court and appealed, but remains ski only. https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/04/19/474878983/court-upholds-snowboarding-ban-at-utah-ski-resort

Nice way to end the thread, on a humorous note

Until 2015 when some guy from New England tied it, he was the answer to the trivia question "Who played in the most super bowls" (Beebe was a member of 6 super bowl teams but didn't play in one because of injury.) ?Not sure how a 6th round pick that played for four years (in Buffalo, a few more elsewhere) can be considered a bust.

Sorry for your loss.

Hope so

My buddy has 12 cars and lives in the sticks. All his cars are in garages or pull barn. He uses fabric softener dryer sheets, puts them on the engine. He also places those cakes that are used in urinals around the floor. The dryer sheets are a repellent, the urine cakes are poison. DON'T USE THE CAKES IF YOU HAVE PETS AROUND, they're sweet and your pets will eat them.

I'd forgotten about this but yeah, now that you mention it he's at the head of the class

No love for Adam Linger?

From beer throwing to caddie races, didn't think the 16th at Scottsdale could get any rowdier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb4EWPybZjo Jake will have to add another verse to the song now! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ELUW1nyGJM

Back in the 80's, before the advent of the world wide web, it took actual effort to research companies, going to the library and such. Nowadays that information is right in one's own living room and still people don't put forth that effort. Knowing about the company may not get you the job, but not knowing about it can lose it. Even better if you research the company's competitors and can manufacture a question or two about them. Do not use bad grammar in the interview. Even better if you never use it at all. Hopefully the highlighted was a typo and you meant it won't hurt. Other tips: Be nice to everyone from the moment you walk in...from the receptionist to the janitor to the CEO. Again, not something that will get you the job, but it's something that might lose it. Be sure to send thank you emails to everyone you talk to, assuming you get a business card with their email address (sent hard copy snail mail back in the day.) Two questions you are likely to be asked are "Tell me what you know about us" and "Tell me about yourself." Already discussed the importance of researching the company, talking about yourself is harder than you might think. Practice it...and talk out loud when practicing, even if no one is listening. Be sure to mention the night school. Finally, go to youtube and search on interview questions, you'll get a better feel for what you might be asked and how to respond.

Well, here's a list of his biggest misses. To be fair, a lot of people missed on these guys. Add to the list Chris Spielman, who he saw as a decent player who would go in 4th or 5th round. In fairness to him, a lot of folks missed on these guys. But Mel is clearly not a man of his word, saying about Jimmy Clausen "If he is not a successful starting quarterback in the NFL, I'm done. That's it. I'm out." https://www.thesportster.com/football/mel-kipers-top-15-biggest-draft-mistakes/ The only one able to accurately predict Bills top picks is Berman's cabbie.

Nothing against kickers, it's holders I have a problem with. Been saying everything should be a drop kick ever since 50+ yard field goals became routine. All extra points should start at the 5 yard line. Drop kick for 1 or run/pass for 2.

Can never have too many!

The Al Edwards line is misleading. Beebe was far from a star in 1990, starting only 4 games and was 6th on the team in receiving yards. Also he broke his leg in the last regular season game and did not play at all during the playoffs, which did not slow the team down in the conference playoffs. It would have been nice to have the Smith brothers in the other two playoff games mentioned (yes I know they're not really brothers.)

Does not make you a bad person at all. If anything, he's being incredibly presumptuous to think helping him is not an inconvenience to others. As Poojer said, he should bring someone with him, either that or hire a personal trainer. There's a guy in a wheelchair at my gym, asked him a couple times if he needed a hand but he keeps saying he's fine so I stopped offering. My bad person thing...have a friend that's 15 years younger than me. His brother was my best friend growing up (died 17 years ago.) Lives down the street from my mother...my 100 year old mother. My mother's probably in better shape than him. Help him put on/take off his compression socks. Take his garbage out. Whatever else he needs around the house. Draw the line at shopping. I hate shopping. He seems to think that if I'm going to Wegman's or BJ's anyways, it isn't an inconvenience for me to shop for him. I already shop for Mom and me, and have to fill in for her aides whenever one is sick or late or whatever (still lives in my childhood home, 24/7 care required.) He has 3 sisters living in town, says they don't mind shopping for him but he hates to inconvenience them. Doesn't seem to have a problem inconveniencing me though. At any rate, now whenever he asks I tell him not sure when I'm shopping again. Am I a bad person for not doing more? Probably. But I really hate shopping.