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Dude, I am not a liberal, don't vote liberal or Democratic, don't link websites that aren't simply data or historical tables as back-ups to my position. I can't tell you where I fit in. I look for pragmatic, executeable solutions to the issues that face us. I don't see the TP doing that and I don't take solace in harping on BO....in fact I find that just plain boring. I see the TP take victories as "stopping" things....well that may be good but it doesn't fix things. i find most TP talk, in fact, very detached...so in essence....quite useless and detracting from finding real fixes. immigration, budget reform....put a platform together.....

That the free enterprise system is the most productive supplier of human needs and economic justice, That all individuals are entitled to equal rights, justice, and opportunities and should assume their responsibilities as citizens in a free society, That fiscal responsibility and budgetary restraints must be exercised at all levels of government, That the Federal Government must preserve individual liberty by observing Constitutional limitations, That peace is best preserved through a strong national defense, That faith in God, as recognized by our Founding Fathers is essential to the moral fiber of the Nation. That's Brats platform - says so on the internet. The problem of course - and a general overview - is that there is no connection with these and actually governing. Totally agree with free enterprise - but that assumes free enterprise solves all issues - it doesn't. Individual have equal rights? - don't stand in the way of SSM - in fact stand for it. Fiscal responsibility - man up and present a budget that balances revenues and expenditures - and recognize that your simply not going to be able to get legislation passed that dramatically changes SS and MC/MA. Constitutional Limitations? Last time I checked EVERYTHING that gets done is constitutional....there is a system for checking that stuff... Strong Defense - Sounds great - problem is our defense department is governed as a corporate welfare system - look at our new fighter jet. Strong Faith - Sure - just keep it to yourself... Come on Tea Party - Man UP! Try to actually govern.....

Tom does not really do anything......so......

Just so you know about my succeeding: I have started 2 companies - sold the first, the second is blowing up (I invent products, patent them and bring them to market). I have raised private capital offerings and have negotiated with huge publicly traded companies to develop operating agreements.I am heavily integrated into the manufacturing and marketing of the products I develop - I don't just turn them over for royalties. I am what some would call a 1 percent-or. My investors have made money - twice - through horrible economic conditions. I have also held public office for 6 years - and lived and worked abroad, I have completed deals in Europe, the Middle East and China..... I am sure though - your C.V. gives you a much wider view of what is going on....

You and your buddies are in a such a rush to prove your douchebaggery you can't even get your arms around a concept. You must have been flummexed by actual empirical data. I am not trying to prove Bush or Obama or any President is any better or worse when it comes to what you and I see in our tax rates. What I am saying is that there have been so many loopholes, credits, exemptions etc added over the last 40 years by CONGRESS that they have a tremendous effect on those who actually PAY the taxes. Why do we feel pinched by high tax rates - when receipts are actually low? The goodies that have been given out. Thanks to SCOTUS....the goodie getters are full of free speech these days....and they are using it. Think 'Merica is a level playing field? I know you are confused because you can't wedge it into lib/con box or vote on it in a simple poll - but hey....Obama did bow once....I feel so eviscerated

Dude if you have a point make it....I didn't imply anything about Obama or say anything about the ACA

Ummmm. These are simple facts. No liberal or conservative slant. Go ahead.

I find it funny that people gripe about Obama and taxes - you gripers haven't taken the time to understand what is going on. Reagan: Average Tax revenue as a percentage of GDP: 17.5 Federal Spending as percentage GDP: 23 Bush 1: Receipts 17.6 - Spending 22 Clinton 1st Term: Receipts 17 - Spending 21 Clinton 2nd Term: Receipts 18.9 - Spending 18 Bush 1st Started at 20 went to 15 - 20 Bush 2nd: back to 17 - 20 Obama 1st: 14.8 - Spending Started at 20 went to 25 Obama 2nd: 17 - Now at 23 projected to go to 20 Federal receipts are pretty much at historical lows. The Bush 2 first 4 years are not repeatable as the tax receipts were simply too low. RR - the god of conservatism raised both taxes and the deficit in his tenure. So how come our taxes are so high? Because in the last 40 years the tax breaks granted to high end individuals and corporations has exploded. This is Dem And GOP legislators giving breaks to hedge fund managers, the NFL, Boeing, GE, the oil industry, the solar industry...... http://thinkbynumber...are-statistics/ Government spends more on Corporate Welfare than Personal Welfare Additional corporate welfare goes to Walmart etc in the form of the earned income tax credit. Our society has decided that people pretty much need $30,000+ per year to live adequately....if your employer doesn't pay - they US taxpayers make up the difference so you can actually live. So the guy working at Walmart cost us $20 per hour - Walmart pays the first 10 = we pay the next. The less they pay - the more we pay.... Tax breaks in the tax code are more than receipts now.... THAT is what people should be talking about....but hey BO bowed once....or twice I guess

This is such a typical ignorant view - ignorant in the sense that you yourself have no idea what immigration reform is about. NOBODY is talking about opening the borders. We have 10-12 million illegals simply because the laws on the books do not match reality. Under NO PLAN will these people be rounded up and deported. Immigration reform is about dealing with the reality of this - but the TP and Laura Ingraham bang the drum and people - ignorantly - fall in line behind a policy that is detached from reality.

Careful.....As I am sure you know....we have the most LIBERAL gun laws in the industrialized world....

Not cause and effect....it was INSPIRATION! Whoooohoooo. Don't tread on me.........awesomeness......let's go get our guns and carry! Maybe hit up a Chipotle on the way just to show the Libs whtat FREEDOM is.....THANKS OBAMA....!!!! We have to fight to get our country back......even if it comes to armed conflict against the TYRANNY!,,,,,From my cold dead hands.....we have to save our country!,,, Think they are the only ones unscrewed enough to take all this rhetoric to heart?

Really.... Just reread several pages.......seems like your fellow protestors were pretty much singing the same tune as the rest of the patriots down there..... They just followed through....

That would be a yes huh?

You Bundy guys still feel the vibe after two of his supporting protestors killed 2 police officers and a bystander out west?

Well that's the problem with the Libertarian model - right? Minimum laws other than to be accountable for your actions.....better hire a lot of judges.....my guess is that laws promote much more freedom that they restrict....without specific boundaries....the courts would simply be clogged...

So would it be better to allow people to sue the coal industry for damage to the environment?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/06/02/obama-to-announce-rule-to-limit-emissions-from-fossil-burning-plants-part-his/ The President has finally bowed to the libertarian and has proposed laws to limit the damage of the coal industry to other people's - and our children's - property. To quote TYTT "Libertarians believe in the strict enforcement of property law. As such, anyone polluting another's property, where damages can be shown, would be 100% liable for costs of clean-up and damages. These amounts, when calculated, are usually multitudes higher than the amounts levied in punitive fines, and are paid directly to the aggrieved party, rather than to a feckless bureaucracy" Who knew?

You never say anything of substance so you are good.....

I think I sold it for $350 Some would say the issue is citizens with no interest in gun freedoms are paying dearly for others to have that freedom.....as long as your good with that then don't worry about these things....

Umm - I have fired a gun - I have owned one too - Ithaca Featherlight 16 gauge- I used to go bird hunting with my wife - she had a Remington 12 gauge. We sold them a couple years back as we no longer hunted - and quite honestly - we had young kids and I did not want to spend the money on a gun safe and felt uncomfortable not being able to secure the guns. She typically took the Ithaca as it was lighter and hunting grouse or pheasant you had to hold the gun up.... Typical PPP response - don't agree then your an idiot of told to STFU - My point about firearms is this - many freedoms have costs - and the cost of having the most liberal gun freedoms in the industrialized world is we have a higher incidence and probability of getting firearms in the wrong hands - and when they do - innocent people are hurt. That my friend - is not a conservative or liberal view - its just what it is.

After I picked up the handgun, I brought it back to my room and felt a new sense of power. I was now armed. Who's the alpha male now, bitches? I thought to myself, regarding all of the girls who've looked down on me in the past. Still think guns don't empower people?

Not making any comments on gun rights. We have the most liberal gun rights in the industrialized world - written into our constitution with its own amendment. What I am saying though - is that the "guns don't kill people" line is only a half truth....one could say that - but the back end of that is guns make killing people much easier and much more probably when used compared to other weapons.

"Weapons are the instrument and not the cause. It is at this point something of a cliché, but it should perhaps be offered anyway: If someone is determined to kill a substantial number of people, they will almost certainly manage to do so" One can offer it up...but a lunatic with a gun is far more likely to actually commit an assault. Much easier to pull the trigger from behind both the perceived security a gun offers and as well the distance from the victim. Want to kill someone with a knife - gets personal and the victim can at least fight back somewhat. Additionally - guns are far more deadly than sticks, stones, fists and knives.,,this current guy did kill his roommates with a knife - but that kid in Pittsburgh who went on a knife attack - managed to only injure them - had he had a gun.... Think of it this way - replace all the guns in the US with knives.....still think we would have these mass shootings? What the gun does is magnify and leverage the ability and intent of the bad guy....something left out in the "guns don't kill...." mantra

Ya. i can see you pretty much stand for nothing.....

Dude - the ONLY place you have credibility with your fellow tin foil hat circle jerkers is here - you have become incredibly well versed in propping each other up in your little world of cognitive dissonance. I would feel frightened if I had credibility with people who don't follow science but rather conspiracies, can't admit Cliven Bundy was a complete whiff of a subject, latch on the Benghazi with great temerity because Obama - while giving the complete conspiracy of waging two wars on fabricated evidence a free pass..... "Clean up your own house" - what a hypocritical joke you guys are..... Works for you!