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Well - There is hating him because he is on a rival - and that can be expected - but to add jealousy fueled analysis just diminishes your opinion. Brady is one of the all time great QB's - that is a fact - doesn't mean you can't hate him.

I always love - er I me loathe it - when some fan, local radio personality....starts with "I want to see...or I need to see....". What are you guys....on the coaching staff? Owners...? Jerry Sullivan? What are you going to do if you don't see what you are looking for....start a thread.....?

Here is my Bledsoe story - I am golfing at a local cc and Bledsoe and a local tv talent personality car rep are in front of me (who I know - hey it is East Aurora - its like high school here) - we catch them - it is the day after a preseason saturday game - West Herr introduces me to drew - I say hi, welcome, and crack a joke - "Aren't you 'sposed to be breaking down films from last nights game?" Hey looks at me and says he has been playing FB for 26 years and doesn't need to look at film anymore. He and West Herr can hit the ball a mile BTW

But they just had "Match Game!!!" Absolutely hysterical - I had to pull over - couldn't stop laughing!!! Sabretooth...........

The whole la stadium thing is very interesting - as a business model - it is the same a Gerry Stadium in Dallas - by requiring private funding now for these stadiums - essentially what you now have is owning a stadium that you need to fill to make a return for the private investors - the NFL team simply becomes one element to making the stadium pay for itself....and that won't happen simply with 10 sundays a year. The business model includes all sorts of other attractions to fill and pay off the investors. What you have is a stadium owner using a football team......instead of a football team owner using the city/county/state supplied stadium. Also interesting because public funding for stadiums is gone for the future - prolly good for our bills as LA is the only location left in the US where a privately funded stadium could make sense Of course there is Toronto.......

Seriously - have you heard those guys on Howard Stern......it is almost painful to listen to as they humiliate the host.....you have to get a bunch of people to do it - calling in from different numbers....I assume that Dope would simply not do any calls - maybe a long term plan of consistant needling would be good

I always thought it would be great to organize a call in assault on Dope and his Lapdog similar to what the two guys on the Stern show do - I think its Sal and Richard - where they just do call in after call in of staged calls to humiliate/antagonize Radio Talk shows....I think we could get Dope to actually blow a fuse....

Hey - Steve Johnson - wait till you get into the endzone before celebrating....have a little patience before making yourself look like TO/Ochocinco....

Franchise Qbs.....????

Use one of your buttons for AM 590 out of Toronto - their topics may not always be relevant - but often they are - they have real guests and real topics and they talk like adults....its almost like - sort of - sports talk for say ....smart people....

Actually - I agree....if we are not sold on Gabbert - Peterson seems like the most sure fire pick - and at this point we need a guy who plays like a #3 pick.

Since i started this thread...... I used to be All Cam.....but not so sure any more..... If Blaine Gabbert is the real thing - I would take him - if not all the better as we get a top D player Either way it is probably good

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/273150-panthers-more-likely-to-hold-pick-take-newton?xid=cnnbin&hpt=Sbin

So if we get NEwton and he becomes good - does that mean you will continue not to watch?

I can only relate my story - I went to Michigan State way back when - (all pro linebacker - Super Bowl - for the Giants played across LT) Carl Banks lived in my dorm and the head RA went down to break up some goofing around - Banks punched him and broke his jaw. Nothing happened to banks - BTW he was probably the meanest looking dude I have ever seen. On a lighter note - when Playboy did "Girls of the Big Ten" the MSU girl lived in my dorm too!!

It's like the Chapelle Show (greatest 2 season show in history) when he goes in slow motion. http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?title=better-in-slow-motion&videoId=219355

Well - among the talking heads of course.....Banks, Schefter, dude from Gr55 who is at the combine......plus it seems to make sense to me. Both the Bills and Panthers need a franchise qb, a franchise qb means more to a football team X2 than any other position, and there appears to be 2 franchise QB's that are there - ergo 1.Newton 2. someone else 3. Gabbert - or other way around. i am not advocating the pick - I just think that arrangement seems to make sense.

I work at home - or travel - so I always have the radio on. Seems like the smoke is clearing among the talking heads....the Panthers and the Bills are going to take QB's - so its either going to be CN or BG. I am good with either one.

One would think that if the Bills draft him #3 they will have done a good job of interviewing him and removing any risk associated with him being mentally and mature enough to succeed. They probably also would have gotten a handle on his ability to handle the pro offense. As far as being a one year wonder - in today's world, that is what you get. I beleive the same label could have been put on AL - but noone here would have had a problem drafting him. To go to your point - I think a one year wonder at QB is more difficult to pull off than what Maybin did. CN went undefeated in the toughest league, made the biggest plays passing and running, won big, won from behind, won it all. If you have only one year to prove it - what else can you do? I think - as usual - people have polarized on him and either are 100 percent for or against. As far as his "transgressions" - I am of the opinion - who cares...for better or worse CN has been a pro QB for years. He was always going to be either a NFL QB or a landscaper. He was never going to be a good student - or even a student. I think in the SEC - the football players probably aren't really asked to be students anyway - they are their to play football - and historically - they have been "pros" - although I am not quite sure how much of that actually goes on anymore...

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Well - the Bills do need a alot of things - including a top level QB. I do not know the Qb's available for next year other than AL - which would warrant a 1-15 record to get him. So - if the Bills are in a position - after thorough research - to get a top level QB this year - and they are confident that Newton or Gabbert will be that - I think they have no other choice but to draft them - after all - when will they have their chance to get one. This is all providing that Newton/Gabbert verify their capability to be a top notch QB through the combines.interviews etc

Totally agree - After all - if two top QB prospects backup their solid college careers by killing it at the combine, interviewing well, etc...we should NOT draft them and finally get the franchise QB we have been seeking since Kelly

My point is - We nitpick and pour over games and draft reports for CN, BG, RM, AL, Ponder,....and our starting QB wasn't even good enough in College to warrant someone looking at him

Love to see Fitz's college draft report

I also hate to say this, all he comparisons seem to be to VY (who by the way is something like 27-17 as a starter in the NFL - and if he wasn't a head case would be a considered a great player - his problems are not because he is a bad QB or is a combo runner/passer - but because he is immature). If CN was white...he would be the next Elway. I hope we draft him.