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What dark journey would that be? Is ISIS massing at our borders? Are we not energy independent? Are our industries and corporations as rich and healthy as ever? What threat do you see? It is ugly to watch...but not a threat to our borders....

Maybe you should talk to my buddy who has lived in NoCal for 25 years...golf courses/farms/nursery's etc are giving up....

You guys kill me - you are sooooo easy to get riled up - Include a link? ....a simple google would reveal several "sources" referencing this story - take your pick - why not include one? Because your "MO" is to simply say the source referenced is not believable, has an agenda, is political....so why bother? Ever see that that "MO" pervades your entire strategy on PPP? Come out with a "take" and then dispute/deride differing opinions by disputing the source of information. My two faves are Cliven Bundy and GW. People here stuck with that arsehat Bundy long after he was shown to be a total fraud on every level - but he was against Obama - yeah! GW - yup - its an amazing hoax perpetrated AG the left, greedy scientists, to get what? You realize that the US and probably Russia are the only countries on the 3 percent side - nice company. In Russia - Putin controls the media - here - there is enough well funded media to attract the lemmings... Have to go blow my nose Oh - and if that doesn't work - just break out the name calling.

As Elaine Benes would say "Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake, Fake...." Don't be embarrassed - many other like minded citizens got taken along for the ride too....

Yes - because everything on the internet is true...just like story the blogger made up. Making the story up just makes the blogger a bigger idiot....

Story has been verified as fake.

I get that you guys are more interested in critiquing than proposing....but I just like pointing it out. I think roughly 10-15 percent of electricity goes to lighting - AC and appliances chew up a bigger percentage. How to power a source at night - really? Energy storage - which I pointed out is the primary hurdle to electric dominance. If electric production via solar gets cheaper than FF then you have to be able to store it to make it simply take over - the market will take care of that - given time to overcome the inertia of FF. I actually think that solar panels on homes does not make sense - we don't have our own generators - the same principle in action - no scale and homes are rarely positioned to be optimally efficient. I think the future is solar farms and localized (in your basement) energy storage. That would be cool - you could buy and store energy on futures or when the price falls - I work in the building industry - all buildings - residential and commercial are undergoing HUGE reductions in energy consumption. Houses built today are 30 percent more efficient than ones built 10 years ago. This of course though is offset by energy needed for internet and cell devices and infrastructure. SO get off the internet and save a polar bear. Then you would be #3 - AGW is not happening.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-01-30/seven-reasons-cheap-oil-can-t-stop-renewables-now http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-11/what-apple-just-did-in-solar-is-a-really-big-deal A couple of pages back I asked where people were: 1. AGW is real and should be attended to. 2. AGW is real but oil/coal supports the 7 billion people on this earth and we don't want to go back to the 1800's. 3. AGW is a hoax 4. GW is simply not happening. Of course no one really chimed in. I would say its all moot and it shouldn't matter what box you check. As one can read the smartest guys in the room are investing heavily in solar and as the costs come on par/below FF - all the arguments go away. No matter where you stand - if renewable clean energy can be had that makes our - and every - country self sufficient - and costs less - isn't that a proposition that you can't argue with? That is unless you have something to lose by that situation. I think the only real last hurdle to solar's inevitable predominance is the next leap of energy storage.

Bravo!

So what is it? AGW is a hoax perpetrated by AG and birddog? AGW is happening but we shouldn't do anything about it? GW is happening but it is not caused by man?

You would never accept an opposing view from yours from a source with such credentials....so......

What separates me from you guys is I don't look for Obama to have the answers - I look for the GOP to have the answers - as that is the party I most align myself with. Is it not more substantive to come up with your own - realistic - executable - solutions rather than complain about what others are doing? The GOP led congress has not - and will not - give further authorization ($) for boots on the ground and scaled up military action in the Middle East. This position is mostly political (POTUS must fail) - but it is also because the GOP simply does not want to stick their fingers into this mess. The effect of this is that BO - no matter what he wants to do - has been limited by congress in his actions - and as such - has pushed the envelope as to what the US is doing now. John Boehner just indicated that further authorizations for expanded $ for military action in the ME was not going to happen. But of course you guys knew that.....

You seem clueless as to how to read - not my proposals... 1. Our borders are not secure to ISIS? 2. What potential ISIS attacks? Have they attacked? Do they show an ability to attack? Do you not think we have every intelligence operation tracking ISIS? Do you think if we identified an imminent attack we wouldn't use all our power to stop it? Pressers - who gives a crap...all the ideas? You guys are the ones who lay constant critique of the current administration (who I did not vote for nor support) but you offer no viable or REALISTIC alternatives

Here are some proposals to ponder: 1. Identify the enemy correctly, in this case Islamic terrorists. Are you saying this hasn't been done? Our national defenses don't know who these guys are - where they have come from - they are sitting on their hands waiting for POTUS to direct them to do so? 2. Identify allies with goals that are similar to ours, e.g., human rights, protection from homeland terror attacks. This hasn't been done? We aren't in an all out campaign to protect our homeland from ISIS? 3. Identify resources to address the problem, e.g., arming counter-terrorist forces in the theater of operations. Don't we have this - aircraft sorties from allies and airbases in and around Iraq? Deployment of intelligence and advisors? 4. Develop plans of action, rules of engagement, and progress assessments. Don't we have this for the last 6-9 months - haven't we been supporting efforts to contain and wipeout ISIS? 5. Inform the public of all of the above with the exception of those components that require secret planning and implementation to succeed. Have there not been press conferences? This is a fringe group in a far away land that poses no threat to invading and controlling our homeland. Yes - they are capable of terror attacks but I would have to think that our military industrial complex is actively tracking all threats - not just from these guys - but from everyone. The American people voted and voted to getting the hell out of there - which POTUS has acted on. Do you think further action and presence in the ME - in light of the fact that military presence and political actions have really produced no positive results for the last 100 years - is a good idea. These people wake up in the morning hating each other and there is no amount of interference that we can provide that is going to change that. It is horrible to watch -and US lives have been lost - but those lives went over there on their own risk knowing they could end up dead. But why exactly is this OUR problem? We strived to get energy independent - we are - lets enjoy the benefits. Or do you want a more liberal position that we should get involved? Things over there will never change unless the people who live there demand it and act on it. If the countries in the ME are going to let a group of 5000-10,000 extremists control things - WHY - WHY is it our burden to continue to be involved. I do not believe there exists a viable plan that involves the US that will result in long term stability in the ME. What in the past would lead you to believe that it would work now?

So you saying a candidate could run on this proposal in 2016 and the American people would elect this person....this policy would produce long term positive results for USA....

Ahhh yes...as I thought....no actual proposals to be found here....just criticizing the ones who actually have to do something...but have fun with the material

Ok- Now that the predictable witty comments about the current administration are somewhat complete....what do you guys suggest the US of A does in response to a fringe group in the Middle East killing someone from another country in the Middle East? While gruesome this happens every day there and the countries in the Middle East don't seem to care enough themselves to mount an effort to combat them - why should we? Bear in mind that the current POTUS said he was getting our troops out of there and was elected. Bear in mind that this hideous activity has gone on in this region for millennia and will likely continue.... I beg a candidate for 2016 run on a continued expensive military presence in the Middle East and see if that gets them elected....

Bonas not very well represented on this board

Ok - Where is the Tea Party platform or wonking work that show how they would reform the budget, the government etc....? The TP is quite confident we have all the money we need - maybe we do - where are their policy and budget stances and proposals? Where is their sponsored legislation in the house and senate? Where are the actual reform proposals - much harder actually doing something than sniping from the balcony....

Wow - you guys are able to devolve any conversation into "progressive" "what he believes.." You have no idea what I believe Bro - but your belief in yourself sure is high enough to project your stereotypes onto me... So - you (TEA partiers) - are telling me that the Federal Government actually has sufficient funds to adequately invest in our infrastructure to bring it up to speed - but they are so inefficient that it appears that don't - and if they became more efficient - they would surely have enough to get the job done.... Again - if that is what you are saying surely their is a link or some maths (as the English might parse) that back up your stance.... And again - if this is what the TP stance is - are any TP elected legislators saying this?

Nowhere have I seen a legislator (tea/gop/dem) state that we need to adequately fund our infrastructure but in order to do so we would like to see proper accounting. That is what the posters on this forum state - which I see as perfectly reasonable and can be referred to as "getting things done". What your "tea" party legislators are instead saying is "No taxes...ever" which is completely different than your stance...

High Information - Low Information - As soon as someone breaks out that line all you are saying to the conversation is "What you are saying is stupid ...only my opinion is qualified"... My point to the OP is - This - to me - is a relatively simple legislative issue - the revenues to keep our infrastructure in good condition have not kept pace - they need to be raised. To me this is not a liberal/conservative/tea party issue. This is just a simple act of getting things done. Yet - Paul Ryan - Chair of W/M says no - "on principle" - whereas to get to his "principle" he has to stretch quite a bit. If the tea party doesn't want to raise fund for roads and bridges and says - "No revenues - let the roads and bridges fail"....where are we to go? As a fiscal conservative...I think that ridiculous battles like this only lessen your ability to get reform on substantive issues. And a Constitutional Amendment is not an answer to every issue.

To me the best part is - Tommie Boy was totally in on this - and lied about it on the radio...and will have to answer all of it next week. Apparently his girlie vag-hands can't toss a regular football!

Everyone - well almost everyone - agrees that our infrastructure is in need of investment. Some middle oriented GOP members even say the gas tax needs to be raised. http://www.nationaljournal.com/policy/insiders/transportation/gas-tax-hike-looking-more-palatable-to-republicans-20150112 Meanwhile Tea Party leader Paul Ryan - Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee says No way... http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/paul-ryan-gas-tax Tea Party out of their minds? We spend too much on infrastructure already? We can live without adding more money to our already bloated highways ports and airports? Gas tax hasn't been raised in decades, the highway fund is bankrupt and cars are using less gas than ever reducing revenues - something has to change? Is Paul Ryan helping us out?