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    GunnerBill's mock versus the world

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    2 hours ago, Billy Claude said:

     

     

    I specifically chose this method to penalize misses at the beginning of the round more than ones later in the round.   A miss by 3 slots in the top 5 is not very good, but a miss by 3 slots in 28 to 32 range is doing a pretty good job.

     

     

     

    I don't want to belabor it as I have much respect for Bill's insights, but a miss of a few slots in the top 5 penalizes almost as much 2+ round misses on QBs that people were projecting going in the 1st

    GunnerBill's mock versus the world

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    I always read @GunnerBill posts as he has excellent insight, but is that the best way to evaluate?  There's a big point slide scale across Round 1.  Won't that over-penalize for inaccuracy at the top of the round vs. those at the bottom.  Make a mistake on one guy in the top 10, Stingley was picked much higher than many expected, and you've blown the whole mock.  Perhaps some of these guys in the lower end of your list did much better later in the round, where the picking is far more difficult.

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    Rise of the Contrarian Teams?

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    6 hours ago, hjnick said:

     

    With the rise of the MEGA QB contact, unless the QB is ELITE, IMO it is not worth it to pay the QB.

     

    I would love to see a team treat the QB role like teams do right now for the RB role.  Keep drafting QBs and play the best one that you have.  Once they get close to the QB getting to his 5th year, trade him for a boat load of picks.  Spend that 40+ million on making the rest of the offense and defense strong.

     

    Isn't that the strategy that we mostly navigated through the drought?  Fitzpatrick and Tyrod scream out as the types of QB that it could theoretically work with.  We had the best rushing attack in the league for a few years with Shady + Tyrod.  But we ended up with .500 teams with just Tyrod barely making playoffs once, because of Dalton/Boyd heroics.... and then 1 and done in playoffs.  

     

    I think the strategy could get you to a fringe wild-card team, but not much further.  Even if they had beaten Jacksonville in playoffs, I have a hard time believing they had any shot at winning SB

    1980 Oakland at Buffalo (FULL GAME)

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    50 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    It was the season opener after OJ's 2000 yard season.  OJ held out but re-signed just before the game.  The opening Monday night game of the year against the Raiders.  OJ sprians his ankle and is out the second half.   Fergy hits Rashad to go ahead 14-13 with just under 2 minutes to play, we hold and get the ball back, but the Jim Braxton fumbles and Art Thoms recovers and runs it back to score, so now we're down 20-14.  We get the ball back, Fergy (then  a second year pro who spent his entire rookie year handing off to OJ), starts throwing the ball and marches us down the field.  With 26 seconds left he hits Rashad for the score to put us up 21-20, and they then take the kickoff and get Blanda set up for a long FG to win it with 6 seconds left.  And he misses!

     

    Most exciting last two minutes of football I've ever seen.

    I'm confused.... OJ's 2000 yard season was in 1973, he was traded in after 1977 season and had retired by 1980 when this game is?!?

     

    Also, the most exciting 1:47 seconds of football just happened in January the last time you saw them play...

    Are mock drafts worth it?

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    Posted · Edited by cage

    As someone who doesn't know jack about college football, I'm a big consumer of mocks.  They lead me to watch YouTube videos of players the Bills may pick.  By the time draft-time rolls around I have a pretty good idea of who's going where and what their needs were.  While any given mock itself may have been inaccurate, the process of seeing them in the two month leading up to the draft are great for the fan experience.  That's all they're meant to be... entertainment for us fans

    [Name Only Title] Myles Jack?

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    2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

    Not at all. There are literally no rumors of trading a Bills linebacker. There's zero talk that the Bills aren't happy with their linebackers.

     

    We just saw the team strengthen the middle of the defense so we can make an educated guess what they felt was a weakness.

     

    Right, but there weren't any rumors of a LB like Jack being available either.  We all believed that Barclay would be our backup QB last year, until the moment they announced they were signing Trubisky

     

    There's a thread every week on TBD about getting rid of Edmunds.  Here's the opportunity now.  Trade him and sign Jack

    Tyler Lockett is available for trade

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    9 minutes ago, loveorhatembillsfan4life said:

    Can the Bills make moves or trades while still being in negative cap? Or does Beane have to clear that up first with restructures? 

     

    No move is executed until the first day of the NFL league year (March 16). By then every team has to be cap compliant including any trade that they would be completing on that day.  Until then all trades that you're hearing about are agreed to in principle, but not yet executed.  For example, Wilson can't report to the Bronco facility yet

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    Happy Antonio Brown Day

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    Posted · Edited by cage

    This one probably belongs in the "what was your worst hot take on TSW ever" thread from a week or two ago.... this board lit up when that tweet came out.  And 90% of the takes wanted him on the Bills

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    Allen's rookie year

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    The video of Allen's second start and famous upset of the Vikings popped up on my YouTube feed.  I hadn't seen these highlights in a long time, but it got me thinking about young QBs.  Lots of teams are wondering or hoping the can get the next Josh Allen, with the common refrain that he "sucked" his rookie season, but then steadily improved to become what he's been in year 3/4.  

     

    Admittedly his stats weren't off the charts that first season.  But looking at these game highlights his affect goes way beyond hurdling Barr, it shows all the ingredients of the guy we see today.  These highlights don't look all that different from a game he might have had this season.  While not every game looked like this as a rookie, he also had impressive games against the Jaguars and two against the Dolphins where won AFC Player of the Week to close the season.  

     

    So teams can think they have the next JA17, but he looked impressive right from that first season....

     

     

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    All Time Bills Team By Draft Rounds

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    Just a few to add...

     

    -- Don Beebe in 2/3rd round WR group

    -- Nigel Bradham belongs with the LB group in 4th round plus.  Easily on par w/ Holocek, Crowell, Patton, Marve

    -- Perhaps Jaime Nails in 4th round OL?

    -- Robb Riddick in 4+ RB group certainly belongs!

     

    Otherwise it seems pretty complete

    Addressing the RB position

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    7 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

     

    Is he the long-term solution? Over 5 - 8 years, who knows. Maybe. Over 2 or 3 years, yeah, he very likely is.

     

     

    I agree with all your points!  I just can't see them putting big money behind any back as the Josh era unfolds.  We'll never have cap $ to prioritize that position.  We should be looking in rounds 2-5 pretty regularly to see if we can find a Jonathan Taylor (2nd rd), but otherwise I think we'll be playing with a string of Singletarys and never resigning any of them.  If there's competition for his services, someone else will be willing to pay more than we should, if there's not then he wasn't good enough.

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