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Actually John Brown's TD celebration is pretty awesome... He's been doing it for a while.... Its even been critiqued by professional dancers...

top 5?? I'm just saying Briscoe doesn't belong that list. How can you be top 5 all time if you played the position for one year..... um... your welcome....

DeShawn Watson is already better than Briscoe,... Com'n Man! I just looked it up and he played a single season as a QB with the following stats, the rest of his career he was a WR: Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD 1968 23 DEN QB 15 11 5 2-3-0 93 224 41.5 1589 14 6.3 13 5.8 66 7.1 5.7 17.1 144.5 62.9 1 2

Very original thread.... its my fault. I woke up in the morning and all I asked for was to go 2-0 on my football pool matches against the spread. Which I did, but had selected Ravens and Bears. Should have picked the Bills and then Haushka would have made those two FGs Wow,... we seem to have some collective bad ju-ju that multiplies on itself

I recognize he's a sports reporter and not a football coach/scout, but someone looking at every player, every snap on all-22 and grading it weekly, is pretty close to the most data we have. I've read a lot of the comments on this thread (and other like it about other players) and it mostly comes across as guys who watched the game while consuming 4-6 beers spouting off. I have no idea who among these posters knows what about football, particularly in detail player/position evaluation. So compared to that, JoeB's analysis seems like it's more valuable.

I think you missed the point. See @eball comment a few below yours. I'm not particularly religious, but the Whitlock is worth listening to on this...

amazing analytical perspective.... keep it up!

If they held firm at signing him at $7.5m then his agent would have told him he'd get more on the open market and he'd likely be gone. It's also lower than he was making on the previous contract. Again, he's graded pretty high on the video analysis that examines his play more holistically.

I had to say this on the Ed Oliver thread, but will have to repeat on this one. Please subscribe to The Athletic before complaining about a player and then go check out the All-22 video analysis after each game. JoeB does a game analysis and then has cumulative grades across all the games. Jerry Hughes is the #3 ranked player on the team (offense and defense) in this analysis. Higher than Milano, Poyer, Hyde or Edmunds. He's 0.01 points behind Tre'Davious White in the grading system. In this analysis JoeB looks at every play and grades every player on each play. I think that analysis deserves more weight than our fly-by thoughts from watching on TV or in-person.

Hey its been a long time since the OP's point has been correct this far into the season... so lets enjoy!

You shouldn't have handed him the answer so easily...

There's so much going on during a live game, its really hard to keep track of players. However, Joe Buscaglia does a weekly grade on each player using the All-22 video from each play of every game. The results are published each Wednesday after the game. He also has cumulative ratings over the season. Through the Eagles game, Oliver is the #8 ranked player from his analysis that includes both offense and defense. He's the #2 ranked D-lineman after Hughes and is ranked higher than Matt Milano, Tremaine Edmunds and Jordan Poyer. We can have our flash thoughts on this, but its really true that you need to study the film in its totality

Loved that play by Singletary. It should be a great play for a QB like Allen. They tried to run another one later in the game, but it got sniffed out and Singletary was dropped for a loss. They should bring in Chan Gailey as a consultant for a week or two to teach the offense that play as they need to be able to run 3-4 per game like the Eagles did to us last week and the Patriots kill teams with for 15 years now...

We'll have several threads over the course of the subsequent week about Josh Allen's viability as a franchise QB. At least 5 of them will need to be shut down by the moderators are repetitive dribble. We'll also hype the next game against the Browns where personally has to do hand-to-hand combat with Baker Mayfield to Wrestlemania levels...

I think he either sticks w/ Patriots or retires. However to play the game on this thread if there was a team on the list that he could put over the top my pick would be the Bears. They have a monster D and really are just missing a QB. If he could win a SB with a team like that then the nameplate in Canton would just say GOAT rather than Brady

I looked back at the box score and stats... Bills weren't scoring points, but Allen was moving the ball and so did Barkley after the concussion.

Darnold went 11-of-32 for a career-low 86 yards, was sacked once for a loss of 13 yards and tied a career-high with four interceptions against the NFL's best defense. This board would be on page 32 of this thread already if Allen had a game like that.... add another 10 pages and 3 separate threads that would need to be shut down on a mic'ed up comment about "seeing ghosts"

That was a jailbreak blitz. They were on him immediately. I'm not convinced Brady or Brees would've handled that one

We should also understand why the three FG drives in the first half fizzled out. One was a blatant drop by Knox, would have been First and Goal. Another was due to a OL penalty. And the third there was a maximum blitz where Allen had no chance. He managed to throw the ball away... no sack, fumble or hero throw. They were deep into Dolphin territory on each drive. The 98 yard drive was highly impressive as well!

Exactly! Which is what prompted the topic...

Checked Foxsports.com as well and he's not credited for a sack

If a QB catches a batted pass or gets a throwback after a pitchout or backwards pass, then he gets credited with a reception. If he's tackled behind the LOS, its a completed pass with a loss of yardage, a negative pass play,... not a sack.

I guess I don't understand why Ed Oliver was credited for a sack on the Dolphins first drive? Fitz did a backward's pass to, I believe Wilson, who feigned like he was going to throw for a moment and then tucked the ball and tried to run. Seems like a tackle for a loss rather than a sack. Wilson wasn't the QB either. I don't think I've ever seen a sack credited against a non-QB. Second, neither the NFL.com nor CBS sports site are crediting Jordan Phillips for sacking Fitz where he actually caused a fumble that Fitzpatrick recovered. He's credited with a forced fumble, but not a sack?

To me it looked like he came down on the ball and could have bruised ribs??

I don't even want to say it, but he had a drop as well in the 1st half