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This may be a good thing for him. He doesn't have all the pressure obsessing about the game being the backup. If something happens and he is thrust into action he may do it with a clear mind and start performing which may snap him out of this funk.

Middle of the road is 50% better than what we had.

EJ Manual is done in Buffalo. He is the Chuck Knoblach of the NFL.

Let's look back to last week vs Chargers. Bills down 2 scores with 1:40 left and they take the ball on their 20. EJ then proceeded to use the entire clock on the first stats padding drive dinking and dunking before finally throwing an incomplete pass I the end zone as time expired. How many other teams would basically throw in the towel in that position with 1:40 left?

All these fabricated QB ratings are useless. Bottom line you want your QB to get yards passing, throw TD's, avoid interceptions and generate first downs on passing situations consistently. Any system that rewards a QB for a 2 yd pass on 3rd and 9 is worthless.

You are way too smart and logical for this thread. We only care about cherry picking statistics and timeframes that make EJ look good. I actually saw some nitwit post the following on the chat. "Haters can no longer complain about EJ, he has a 90 passer rating in TODAYS game" . Do I need to dissect how patently absurd that statement is? It is akin to saying that we can't complain about a lifetime .200 hitter in baseball cause he is 2-4 today which makes him a .500 hitter on the day.

Is there any need to discuss a stat (Passer rating) that ranks Chad Pennington higher life time than (Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, John Elway, Brett Favre, Roger Staubach, etc. etc.) ? It is the most worthless stat in sports.

Chances of winning with using the entire clock when needing 2 scores? ZERO POINT ZERO.

Bills got the ball with about 1:45 down 2 scores. Improbable to pull out a victory from there? YES. Impossible? NO. They dinked and dunked it down the field padding EJ's completiton and yardage stats and finally took a shot at the end zone with under 10 seconds. What does this tell you about the coaches confidence in EJ pushing the ball down field and what message does it send to future oppenents as they game plan? No confidence whatsoever is the message.

They lost by 2 scores witout his brain fart safety and he was wildly inaccurate. He did lose that game.

202 and 173 yards passing are not even remotely close to being "good" games. They only are " good" if your definition of " good" is not blowing the game for the team. As I have said before the Bills won 2 games in spite of not because of. I suspect you will be earning your money as head of EJ Manual Social Media team this week. Jim Kelly was given an opportunity to give EJ Manual a vote of confidence today on the telecast and he did not do it. enough said shill

Your last sentence is by far the most salient point made in this entire thread.

Hi K-9 . I'll get back to you when I get to re-watching both games and documenting each occurrence.

Pretty funny Mr Adams. My statement was EJ is not well thought of by the majority of football fans outside of Buffalo. I then pointed at that he is undrafted in a majority of fantasy leagues. I guess I need to actually spell it out for you. If people think he could put up the stats to help them they would take him. If your take is that is how I judge him than that is a reading comprehension issue on your part and that is sad. I would love to see EJ become the number one QB in the history of the Bills but based upon what I see (Not Fantasy Stat) I do not see it. When I try and articulate it with other Bills fans there are some that don't want to hear it and respond with bullying tactics and the tired "You are a troll" when your opinion differs from theirs.

Exactly! Let's enjoy the ride while it lasts and Ignore the Internet bullies that personally bash those with a different opinion.

I see your point and will accept it given the fact that we were ahead. Will you feel the same way if we were playing from behind? Many of us were extremely frustrated by this same thing last year when we were not nursing a lead.

Positive is not bashing CJ, Watkins etc while blaming them for every EJ mistake. And I am very glad we're 2-0.

I think a lot of of fans are caught up in arguing against the inane postings of John from Hement and are being mislabeled as EJ haters. Those of us that point out that EJ floats the ball, Locks into one receiver, is skittish in the pocket, rather protect his QB rating with a 2 yd pass on 3rd and 9 intead of taking a chance are instantly tagged as trolls. I would like make that love nothing better than EJ becoming a franchise QB. To read his postings EJ never throws a bad pass, WR run bad routes and should catch everything regardless of how off target it is. It is always someone elses fault. He is constantly bashing other players yet those that find fault with EJ are trolls? He is obviously a member of EJ's social media team and the fact that the mods let that go on here is disappointing.

Really?? It is what the market of millions of fans rate our QB. No different than the stock market. If you cant see how obvious that is then I feel sorry for you. EJ is no better than 25th best starting NFL QB. bills are a deep playoff team with any other QB. He floats his balls, locks into first receiver. 202 yds passing, He never has a 300 yd game, NEVER,.

Why would Brandon hire both. Manos and Marrone given their obvious dislike for one another? I am optimistc that we wont have to endure much more of this. Any new owner would be foolish not to blow up this entire Front office and coaching staff and begin a TRUE rebuilding of this organization. President Bill Polian has a nice ring to it.

Is there some kind of rule on the books that the Bills can't trade up? Thanks. Right now EJ is more JP than JK. Just sayin. Happy holidays

IF .... I deal in the real world not what if's. He has shown nothing whatsoever but Step Step Tap tap Shuffle Shuffle Assume the upright fetal position Sack

I guess you know better than all the analysts predicting it. God complex?

The Bills are in a bind this year because of the epic QB class available. They reached last year on a QB in the first round. If they stick with him they may miss the best QB class in 25 years. I hear a whole lot of excuses about EJ and have seen few results.

Wilson, Kapernick, RGIII, Luck It's not 1975 anymore so take the blinkers off. QB's drafted in first round no longer get 3 years to get it.