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Was this recent? Seems like someone else was at a practice on here that saw them have a heated discussion a while back. According to Marrone it isn't as big an issue as CBS is making it.

So you are saying......

Duz it reely madder, Madder?

My tablet will not let me link but it is on home page of TBD.

You have yourself as a self proclaimed head jock strap rinser.....Hard to take your statement serious.

Or for that matter one that threw a pass.

you dont have to "get" it you just have to "agree"! Just repeat what the doomsday preachers on this site say and all will be well. Oh, also just do this with your real feelings and opinions and when they start to win you can say oh I knew they were going to have a good season all along.Just roll with it man! Oh, you mean when Gailey wouldnt use him much because he got winded?

Yet you listen to him anyway?!

so the made up side. And the ignorance of the rest of us?

And completed 10! Well 12 if you count the two Int's.

wow, Jim Kelly sucks! CUT HIM NOW!

Actually I started this post because of a disagreement about the play. Weather or no He had time to throw it to Fred. The original argument is that he saw Fred but decided against throwing it. I argued he may not have seen Fred. After watching the video I can see that he did look right at Fred. Now my point is that He did not or did have time to throw the ball. We say he should have done this or that all game but have we ever analized a particular play by film? I think not. Now lets look at the play and figure out if criticizing him is justified or not.

Do I need to start another thread? Just Kidding, I agree

Or reading about Fred's injury or loss of yards and how stupid EJ is for putting Fred at danger or the INT.

And just like that less than 1/2 hour into it WE ARE DISCUSSING JOHNY FOOTLOOSE . please stay on topic.

Although this should have been his first Progression. He wasn't even covered. BUT this still has nothing to do with my argument.

Sent you a PM. This will be a blast! I will give you this. He did see Fred. Didn't say he didn't see him just questioned weather or not he did. I only listened to the game so looked to the video that you wouldn't look for and that you were right. He saw him. you are wrong, he couldn't get it off. We, my friends are both wrong and right.

Well I need TBD to help me settle this disagreement. It is between myself and another poster. I am not going to give you my or his/her argument or opinion. Does EJ have time to get this to Fred from the time he sees him to the time he gets hit? Yes or No! http://www.buccaneers.com/multimedia/videos/McDonald-Returns-Fumble-for-TD/1eb45707-61eb-4351-b9ff-4df7bb152e77

You are in denial

Never mind, Just found the video myself. You are talking about him looking up at Fred at .04 seconds in the video to the D being on his shoulders at .05 seconds in the video. That one second when if he tried to throw it he would have been drilled in the windup and fumbled. Great idea. Here is the link. Watch it one more time. http://www.buccaneers.com/multimedia/videos/McDonald-Returns-Fumble-for-TD/1eb45707-61eb-4351-b9ff-4df7bb152e77

What is that all about. My point is I cant say for sure he saw Jackson on the play you are talking about. But your mind is so much on Im right that you insist you are right and EJ saw Jackson. As a fan I would hope he would have saw him but I don't know that. If you are sure he saw that put the play up through Youtube for all to see please. If you cant prove it than stop. If you can prove he saw Fred and decided to make something else happen like you say than I digress and admit you are right.

Soooo, you are never wrong. OK

Sooooooo.......You don't want to be accountable?

Im a deer hunter and have looked right at deer I didn't see till it was too late. . In the moment from the level of the field things look different. From TV or the seats things are much more obvious than they are when you are looking through an OL and a DL while the game is moving. They need to slow the game down for the man and they needed to hire a more experienced OC than Hatchet Job,

Why are you being optimistic? That could get you in trouble here! I listened to the game and Murphy said these things over and over. Fred didn't just call EJ over to chew on him he brought the whole OL. I would love to hear what he said. Im sure he didn't lay the horrible first half on EJ alone but on the drops, falls, bad routs, protection issues, penalties and the such. They didn't play a bad first half but a sloppy one. Need to clean those things up. GO BILLS!!!