Estelle Getty

Hmmmmm. It's ok to admit when you guys are wrong.

The game was decided right then

Yeh let's all forget about that interception in the first quarter that was called back. (Didnt see that coming).

I can see you and yolo come from the jeff dunham school of comedy

All the more reason to listen!

Not a troll acount. It is my job to make the more simple minded people more aware of what is happening right in front of their faces. History is a pretty good indication of what will happen tonight imo. I predict we will see something even more fantastic in regards to the refs favoring the *pats than yolo could imagine in his wildest dream. Let's see what note you guys are singing at about 1145. Eventually you will be forced to wake up. And in regards to my other refs thread why dont you read my last one about the "will the refs let us win the game" and tell me where i was wrong. If you ask me my prediction was pretty scary as far as how accurate it was. If this was back to the futre most of you would be Biff.

I find it funny people like you have watched a *pats game in the last 15 years and haven't caught on to what's clearly going on. But then im sure you think the government loves you, the 6 oclock news keeps you informed, and you can't pass up a good deal on meat from Walmart.

212-450-2000. You will thank me after the game. The only way things will change is if we start a movement and force the Hand of the NFL. My advice would be not to sound like a crying Bills fan but rather to focus on the fact that it is apparent *pats games are predetermined.

Eventually they will start letting mariah carrey or ellen start announcing these games. That is what the NFL is coming to.

Still waiting for my call back from the league office. I will post the # Monday for anyone interested so we can call after the horror show unfolds Monday night.

Thank you i will do this tomorrow. I have also acquired the phone # to the league office and will call tomorrow. It might sound silly but for fans who put as much heart and soul into this as us we have to start somewhere. Maybe we can get the #Billsmafia behind it as the seem to have a little national pull.

Yes and how could i forget the 15 second after the play "and now there is a flag on the field!?!" Even the announcers can't hide their surprise of how late the flag is.

Well for my part ill send an email to someone in the league offices to atleast make them aware that people know whats going on. I suggest others do the same. I think you would be amazed what we as humans would try to get away with if we thought no one was going to do anything about it. If we are investing our hearts and souls into something that is pre determined we have the right to know about it!

So you think it is ok that the league hands them games? I don't know, I remember the NFL being pretty intriguing before kraft bought the pats.

Yeh I mean getting a personal foul like Hughes did fo slapping your own players head. Does it get any more blatant than that? Again a call that happened early in the game but was a huge swing the Bills could never recover from. I also noticed the refs will wait for a play to develop before throwing the flag for say an easy offsides call on the pats defense. If it is a run that looks like it is going nowhere they will throw the flag. If the QB drops back and looks like he is in trouble they will somehow miss a blatant offsides penalty in hopes the pats D makes a big play. It is hard to see my Bills brothers who think "were gonna do it this time" not remember what happens every time we play the pats. The sad part is on a neutral field with refs who weren't working for bobby kraft we beat this team quite handily due to all the pats injuries and just being a more talented and complete team right now. Eventually something will give and the REFS will be investigated. And besides the pats situation you can't een get excited if you are any other team and you see a great play in any game Because they are called back so often it is sickening. The REFS decide the game, not the players. I can say with great certainty the REFS have an interest in the over/under in games much like the A few REFS who got caught did in the NBA.

Regarding officiating this Monday night? With good reason (the bias treatment the pats have recieved by the refs since kraft bought the team). I would like league officials to at least keep an extra close eye on what is sure to be an insane amount of bogus calls and non calls in the pats favor to make sure they stay undefeated. It is a sad state of affairs in the NFL when it is hard to even get excited for a game since you know the injustice the refs are about to dole out when playing the pats (it seems many fans regardless of their team feel this way when playing the pats). However what most fans don't seem to realize is how the refs usually decide the games in the pats favor in the second and third quarters. For example When a stop on 3rd and 7 in the 3rd quarter turns into a touchdown drive for the pats due to a phantom hands to the face call, that is a swing that is very hard to recover from. The refs do their best to offset this by throwing a meaningless defensive holding call against the pats on a first and ten from your own 25. In closing i don't think anything can be done regarding this Monday night but at some point all NFL fans need to come together to let the NFL know the integrity of the game is being greatly compromised and we are aware of it. Perhaps this is why the NFL has the same protection as the WWE in the fact it is protected under the same entertainment laws. That cannot be said for any other major sport.

Wake up! 9-7 for sure gets a wild card this year in a very weak AFC. Good chance 8-8 does. We have to go 4-3 the rest of the way which isn't just doable, but probable.

Rest is good. Now if there were no such thing as REFS we would probably have a legitimate shot at this game. The REFS would never let us go into new england and spoil the pats perfect season on prime time no less. Really we should be preparing to make such a stink about the calls that were going to get against us the league has to address the issue regarding the phantom calls the pats get and how they dont get called for their own penalties. Mark my words it will be truely criminal what the REFS do to us next monday. Hate to be that guy but what is the definition of insanity? Fyi we are still making the playoffs and very likely will be playing the colts in the first round.

revis just gave up 126 yards to the jags reciever who caught the winning td against us. Not sure he isnt slowing down a bit

I have been a Leodis fan since his 3rd year. Every time he was really turning the corner he has been injured unfortunately. Just bad luck. Prediction of the week: I think he steps in front of a weak fitzy throw and brings it to the house.

No bad feeling. Half of their defense is out and they cant run the ball right now. I think it is a close game until Robey or Leodis steps in front of a pass and brings it back. Bills by 2 scores.

Haha the fact you think the refs would let the lowly bills go into foxboro and spoil new englands undefeated season is comical.

The texans were getting beat 44-0 at halftime by the hapless dolphins last week. After beating a 1 win team 6 quarters later they are now contenders. (Says you and cbssports) What did i miss?

I like watching these teams lose as much as anyone. But we still need to win or it doesn't matter. 8-8 gets a wild card this year mark my words!

This is the best thing about us Bills fans. Even though there is no doubt we have failed miserably at addressing the QB position for 20 years most on this board will blindly defend the organization. So the Bills have done everything right in terms of finding a QB for the last 20 years. Ummmm......Yeeaaahh. Wull go with that, seems logical.