OldNMBillsFan

An old friend is a big KC fan. Every year we wager $100 on who ends up being ranked higher in the Conference between them and the Bills. Another 50 if they play head to head. I am tired of sending him a check every year, this year I am claiming him on my taxes. So I am going for the Steelers. But then again, every team I root for looses, maybe I should root for the Chiefs if I want the Steelers to win.

Maybe because the Defense went from #18 in the league in points allowed, to #3. Since the offensive points per game were almost identical between those years, i think its safe to say that the QB play had nothing to do with the better record.

Hell, he could have stretched out and dove and got real close to the marker without taking a hit. Then it would have been third and one. The O line was dominating, and if they didn't make it on the first try, Rex probably goes for it then, instead of punting and sealing his fate.

I think we are talking about the same play. Buffalo was at their own 33, 2nd and 10. There is 4;19 left in OT. Sammy catches the ball on the left side of the field, takes it up field to the 40 and steps out of bounds to avoid contact after gaining 7 yards.

Screw Sammy, he walks out of bonds without having the first down in overtime against Miami. He is gutless and part of the problem. He is more concerned about himself than the team. He has talent, just to self centered.

I agree, as i stated previously. The defense was terrible at stopping the other team and giving the ball back to the offense. According to (pro-football-reference)The Bills offense only had 177 drives, tying them for 25 and 26th least amount of drives in the league.They were the 9th most efficient offence in the NFL. Scoring 2.14 points per drive. And they could have been even more efficient if Carpenter didn't suck. Carpenter was the worst in the NFL, he only made 4 of 9 attempts from 40-49 yards out and was 40 of 45 on extra points. Bring those into NFL averages and he makes 3 extra Field goals and 3 more extra points giving the offense an extra 12 points for the season with an average FG kicker, This would turn the 2.14 points per drive into 2.22 points per drive, moving them to 7th in the NFL in points per Drive. Now lets say the Defense can be top 10. The 10th best defense at getting the ball back into the hands of their offense was 193 (three way tie for 10th 11th and 12th, PIT, CAR, LA. ) Using the 2.21 average per drive and they would have scored an extra 35 points this season. They scored 399 points tying them with PIT for 10th and 11th. 399 +12 (For and average FG Kicker)+ 35 (for a top 10 defense) and the offence could have conceivably scored 446 points, or 27.9 points a game, for 3rd highest scoring offense in the NFL. So, after all that, it is my opinion that they need to focus on defense and a FG kicker, this would help the offense score more points. I believe there is still upside to TT. Any marginal improvement would make an even grater impact on the offence scoring points. Then add that a top 10 defense would also allow the opposing offense to score fewer points, and we should have not just a playoff team, but one that could go deep in the playoffs. I would love to see TT improve, but i honestly think that the Bills can win with him.

And I thought Woods was !@#$ing Crazy!!

People always bring up that TT is terrible in the 2 minute drive, not one has given any statistical data to support such claim. It would be an interesting statistic. I honestly don't remember too may times the defense stopped the opposing offense with 2 minutes on the clock, giving TT an opportunity to win the game. The only one i can remember is the Seattle game, and on the final play of that game, Woods quits on the play, hell he wasn't even looking at the ball when it was coming at him.

I agree with you. Here is an interesting thought. If the Defense got more 3 and outs, it would've given the offense more drives, thus more drives for the offense and more points scored. What an amazing concept. The Bills averaged 2.14 points scored per drive. That put them 9th in the NFL, but they only ranked 24th in the NFL with 177 offensive drives. 6 teams made the playoffs with a lower points scored per drive.

That's freaking awesome!!! Thanks for the video.

You think, Stupid !@#$!!!

After watching the presser, I think they found a winner. He seams like a straight forward guy that knows what it takes to win in the NFL, I hope he works out. Either way, I will still get my season tickets, like I do every year. Go Bills!!!!

I respectfully disagree with that statement. Anyone who puts one person, over the team as a whole, is not loyal. Like the statement that has been quoted that he made a promise to Tyrod. Why in the world would a coach make such a promise? I wouldn't call that loyalty, i call that not having the courage to be a prick.

And 2 HOF receiver's. He didn't need to be all that accurate with Lofton, Just throw it up there and be sure to not overthrow him. Lofton was the best ever at adjusting his speed, so that he would always catch the ball in front of him. Not just keep running and watch the ball land short into the defenders hands like todays receivers do. I still think he was the best ever.

In all seriousness, I do not recall too many times the Bills defense was able to give the offence the ball back with 1:30 to 2 minutes remaining on the clock, then again I am getting old and usually had too much to drink by the 4th quarter. Since you obviously are a stats person, could you tell me exactly how many times TT was able to operate the 2 minute drill, and the result of each of those attempts. It is often stated as fact in TBD that TT sucks at the 2 minute drill, I have never seen anyone quantify such a statement. Thanks

No kidding. I expect the mods will shut this thread down soon.

I have learned just as much from unsuccessful leaders as I have from successful ones. It is less painful to learn from the mistakes of others, than from yours.

Sooner or later, someone needs to hold the players accountable. Will it change the culture, immediately, no. But when its this bad, they need the biggest prick to come in and set the tone. Its much easier toning it down later, than going the other way after you have been there a while. JMO

IMO, the Bills biggest problem, is its loosing culture itself. The Players get accustom to loosing and are not willing to make the sacrifices needed to win. I witnessed that in Saturday’s game. Some players were unwilling to fight for every inch of the field, weather it be on defense or offence, especially when it was needed the most. Some players are more concerned about protecting themselves, then getting a win. That’s a failure on the coaches’ part by allowing this selfishness to go unchecked. Players should be benched this week for their lack of effort and unwillingness to sacrifice for the good of the team during last week’s game. Rex was too soft and had to go. Anytime you hear the term “ A players coach” it means they are soft and will not hold players accountable for lack of effort. I honestly believe he underachieved with this team. He is not their leader; he is their friend. A recipe for failure IMO. I believe Marrone achieved more with a much less talented roster.

You stupid F*** Did you not watch that gutless puke step out of bounds to avoid contact!!!

Your a DUMDB A**

Sammy's gutless. This site has such a man crush on him, very few will say that he actually should have put his head down and got the first down. Julian Edelman would have got a first down there every time.

I have seen a difference. It reminds me of the 87 season when they had a loosing record but were in most of the games until the end. You knew then, they were just a play or two away from winning a lot more games. I think the same way now, they are close.

Just my opinion, but I honestly believe there is a good possibility that all this is really fabricated by the media. In the past, I really believed that RW allowed public opinion to influence his decisions. He always had to market the team and try to meet the demands of the customer. Its easy to stir up the mob when the team has been this bad, for this long. I wish I could be at the game to watch the pregame to see the interaction between Coach, GM and Owners. That would tell me everything I need to know. I found this quote interesting. "Maybe that's the grand plan here, to make Rex a sympathetic figure in case the Bills finish 9-7. Then they can go status quo and tell everyone it was the media's fault." almost sounds like the media is already making excuses if it was all fabricated. Time will tell.

Exactly!! The Bills D gives up 37 points to the Jets. That's the Jets highest point production this year. And lets not forget what Defense allowed Jacksonville to finally score on an opening drive, something they could not do in the last 25 games. Thank God the Bills offense put up 28 points against Jacksonville. Could you imagine if the D allowed them to get 29 points??? Some fans would've wanted the whole offense to be **** caned.