OldNMBillsFan

Oh i agree, and how much income and property taxes are paid to NY state by just the players every year? That initial investment of 22 million is looking pretty small after 45 years. That is my whole point. The state makes a killing off of the team. It would be in their best interest to fund a large portion of the stadium when it is needed.

Yes, I moved back to the area about 2 years ago. Are you?

At this point in time, I see no need for the stadium to be replaced. However, when that time comes, I have no problem with the state footing a large percentage of the cost. I have no idea the economic impact of having an NFL team in the area does, but I am sure the State does. State income tax on 52 professional football players, coaches, and all supporting personnel to include stadium employees. Property tax collected by the same employees. Then the sales tax generated every home game, to include the estimated 12,000 (last I heard) Canadians who spend their hard earned money supporting the team as well. How much Tax do they collect for every beer I drink at the game? How much gasoline tax is collected from all those who need to fill up to get to the game and back home. I could go on and on. I haven't even touched on the services such as restaurants and hotels and the impact of those employees and the sales and income tax generated. When you think about it, it could be staggering. Ralph Wilson Stadium was built in 1973 for 22 Million. I would think that the state and local taxes collected every couple of years now, easily recovers their original investment.

Hell Yes!!! This is the year!!.... Or was it last year? Or maybe it was 2012 when they signed Mario. Hell its been so long I cant remember. Either way, its definitely this year, I think.

The same could be said in the 2 games they won with him as a starter, Cleveland and Jacksonville, the two teams combined for 4 wins. The bottom line is that so far in his career, he has not been a game changer. People make it sound like they can't win without him, when to the contrary, last year they had a better record without him, than with him.

I would have to disagree, that if they did trade Sammy, that they were giving up on the season. Sammy was not an impact player for them last year. The team went 5-3 without him and 2-6 with him. And in one of the wins he played in was against Cleveland, he had 1 catch for 10 yards in garbage time. Maybe they think they can find a player who can contribute to wins with the pick they would get in return.

This is the most absurd argument I have ever heard of. In a must win game to stay in the hunt for a playoff spot. With only 4 minutes left in OT, a tie does not help. And you are saying Sammy shows maturity for not trying to get extra yardage . This is classic man crush!! I will agree with what you said about the play calling, but again, this is about Sammy. And I believe, if he gives it a full effort on that play, he gets and extra 2 yards making it 3rd and one. Changing the scenario enough that the Bills think about running it twice if needed for the first down. Again, a tie does not help and there was only 4 minutes left in the game. For the record, I don't hate Sammy. I hate that play because of the lack of effort. And it couldn't have happened at a worse time in the season.

What don't you get? I am talking about the Bills last possession of the game. At 4:16 in OT. Everything else you describe is exactly what he gets paid for. And I have complained plenty about Carpenter and his 4 of 9 from 40-49 yards. But this thread is about Sammy.

Thanks for proving my point. Again, this was overtime, in a must win game to have a chance to end the playoff drought, and your princess Sammy comes up small on a play that the team needed more from him. I pay to watch the NFL, not flag football. I expected him to lower his head and fight for the first down. Anything less, and I feel robed as a customer. This type of play is exactly why the Bills haven't been to the playoffs in the last 17 years. I hope Coach McD can change the "me first" mentality of some of the players. I hope Sammy is more mature and becomes a team player and has a pro bowl season. But as I sat there watching this game, and seen this lack of effort from probably the most talented player on the team, I knew the season was over. If one of your most talented players is not willing to sacrifice himself for the team, then how can you expect anyone else to. Some of you are allow your man crush on Sammy to cloud your judgment.

I agree with you 100%.

Two things dumb assss! Take a look at 4:16 left in overtime. Only a self serving primadonna steps out of bounds in that situation. No Patriot would step out of bounds under the same circumstances, or they would be looking for another job. The game often comes down to inches, he could have easily dove forward and gained a couple yards without getting hit hard. Other receivers do it all the time. Again, he did not have a first down, and it was overtime. And another thing smart asss. Take a look how long i have been here, you stupid !@#$!!!I I have never been to BBMB Who are you, Sammy's agent???

That's exactly what happened!! Do you actually watch these games?? When the game matter the most, he quit. At 4:16 in OT he steps out of bounds to avoid a hit instead of fighting for every foot. I don't care how many yards he had, TT had lead the Bills offense to 581 yards until that point, it obviously wasn't enough to win. But the difference between TT and your precious Sammy, is that TT never quits!!! Sammy has all the talent in the world, but no heart.

Doesn't need a new mindset? WTF? Obviously you don't watch the games. In overtime against Miami, he ran out of bounds a couple of yards short of the first down so he would have to take a hit. You don't think anything was wrong with that?

I was there for 3 years. There is nothing open when the games are on. If i remember correctly 2 to 3 AM Monday morning there, is Sunday at 1 PM here

Lets not forget about another missed FG by Carpenter, this one in OT. He was 4 for 9 from 40-49 yards for the season. He cost the Bills more than 1 loss.

I was thinking its the Cowboys, or Romo's agent trying to create false interest in an old, broken down QB.

They had the fewest passing attempts in the NFL. He is not responsible for the play selection.

To bad it couldn't be a video. Ohh the good old days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4OTH0pddv4

Put up Tom Brady? Let the curse be upon him!!!

I think it will be interesting to see what TT could do with a different coach.

More like 2 1/2. either way. Your 1 foot is bull ****!!!.

I agree, another thing they look for are players who will do anything to win. Players who hate loosing more than they like winning. It shows on the field at the end of the game, when will prevails over talent.

it was 3rd and 3 dumb ass!!!!!

Watkins is a !@#$ing kitty!!!. In a must win game, in overtime, that kitty steps out of bounds without the first down to avoid contact. I cant believe people defend that gutless, selfish, POS!!!

When Polamalu was in his prime, he was amazing. He could and would take over a game on his own. I cant remember how many times he would get an interception or force a fumble as the other team was about to take the lead late in the game. I was at the infamous Stevie drop. But before that, with a couple of minutes left, Buffalo was driving and looked like they were about to take the lead with a TD. They got within 15 yards of the goal line when Troy made the pick. I think I counted about 6 wins that Pittsburgh got that year because of Polamalu. You need one or two of those types of players that can take over a game, and it doesn't have to be the QB. Unfortunately, the Bills don't have one. I was hoping that Sammy could be that guy. But when he stepped out of bounds without having a first down, in overtime, in a must win game, I am thinking now that he will not be that guy.