maddenboy

-We will pick up the 5th year option. There is no point asking us to Be Patient, since we only have until the first week of May, 2021, and nothing will change until then (unless we draft his replacement. Unlikely) -We should, as a business decision, pick it up. Because (1) its not my money, but (2) who else are we gonna spend it on next year? Will there be 1 big free agent we neeeeeeed and will regret spending $12MM ish on the, basically, 1-year test drive? I think not. -me myself, I dont think he will work out for us. I also think we will let him test the market after year 5, and count on him thinking this is his best spot to grow and compete for championships, and will take a home-town discount. -I agree with the posters that McD is gonna ride this until the bitter end. -I think that if we draft or somehow find our Big Nickel, it might free up Edmonds from pass responsibility just a little. And less responsibility might just let him be instinctive and make plays. If he is capable of that. -Instinct will get you to the right place at the right time. But will he actually be a Playmaker if he actually arrives on time, or (if instinct is involved) early???

Incorrect. Fred Jackson went to Tiny Coe College.

probably hard to identify, on film, which WRs project best as kneecap-biters. I dont think they track that stat at the college level.

I dont read mock drafts to get any remote idea of who is getting picked where. As a casual draft fan, I read them solely for the evaluations of the individual players. Most of whom I have never seen play. Dont really care about anybody's guess / rumors / locks on what player Team X is going to take. That will come with the post-draft grading articles. Which is an even more worthless exercise, since i've already read about the players.

Fish first. Pats*** second. (and in NE, if I'm being greedy). This, because I dont want BB to have all off-season to plan for me.

I'm not seeing anything special here. All he does is his job, after scrub defenders make mistakes. At least Rondale has some 'special' qualities (speed, shiftiness, apparently crazy work-ethic). Not really interested in either one at #30.

Chris Simms talks about it ALL the time. Florio (PFT) talks all the time about how Simms talks about it all the time. And about how Simms is tight with Shanahan. With flimsy disclaimers from both about how "I dont have inside knowledge from Kyle, but knowing him . . . Mac Jones at 3" SF has no reason to put this out unless they want to Jedi the JESTS into taking Mac Jones at #2.

Since nobody expects us to take a TE in any round, JJ is likely better than nothing, since he is likely already better than anybody in this draft. And especially since we (the TBD draft room) are only interested in drafting players who will contribute THIS YEAR.

Jairus Byrd. Quitter with the fake plantar fasciitis phantom undiagnosable injury, and thinking he was bigger than Buffalo anyway. Got the impression that he wasnt signing here no matter how much $$ Keith McKeller (Tight End). Personal. Had relations with a female that I would have preferred he didnt. Plus he sucked as a TE. I was kinda like "of all the Bills you coulda picked, why THAT scrub?" Jason Peters. Dood, we raised you from an inept Tight End into a Pro-Bowl LT, and it was so obvious you wanted out, out, out. I have never rooted for him since, and dont even like to see him. Any Bills player who ever played for Miami after playing for us. Thurman kinda gets a pass because of body of work, lifetime service, and hard to hate a man for trying to get a last paycheck to feather the retirement nest. But that had better have been his ONLY offer.

(According to Chris Berman on SportsCenter during the super-bowl run in the early '90s) There are only 2 major sports teams in North America whose official colors are Red, White and (American) Flag Blue. Buffalo Bills and Montreal Canadiens.

I'm thinking the Panthers are still in the hunt for a REAL QB. Darnold gives them a more valuable trade token then this year's 6th and next year's 2 and 4. Spitballing, maybe the Niners would take Darnold and stuff for the #3. A proven QB with upside is maybe better than a lotto ticket. Spitballing, maybe the Texans are willing to make a move, but not for Bridgewater. But for Darnold, the Texans (1) can sell hope to the fans, and (2) can echo lots of the posts in this thread and turn him onto Tannehill or better, reversing the Jets' incompetence in developing a QB. And I still say (from other threads going back to last week) that the Deshawn Watson allegations make him MORE Likely to be traded. His price drops, and the Texans can save face from their "no way in hell" stance by claiming changed circumstances. Watson isnt going to prison. He is going to settle the cases and maybe sit a couple games for suspension. Everybody would take that for a Franchise QB. Panthers want him for 10-12 years and no one will remember a 3 game suspension way-back-when.

Exceedingly well reasoned. Succinct. Culling what should be obvious to us, and presenting it compellingly. And especially after Josh gets his, how much $$ do we want to tie up in the WR room? Need O-Line much? I have been against WR or speedy-RB in round one. I am now converted.

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More just word association. I say "Spanos." You think . . . "Chargers." Otherwise, she walks into some upper-crusty place and says the name Spanos as if the heavens should part and time should stop, and instead . . . crickets.

The look on Josh's face is the same you would expect from your BOSS. "yes, ha ha. You do realize i'm still your boss, right?"

The leverage here for Dea Spanos is that the NFL hates litigation involving the teams. Especially here, where financials and other dirty laundry will come sailing into the public record. Advantage: Dea She just wants to get bought out, at the best price. She doesnt want to ruin the 'legacy' of the Spanos name being synonymous with the Chargers. Dad would roll over. The WFT minority owners just got bought out a couple weeks ago, after protracted legal sabre rattling. Coincidence?

Something just occurred to me, reading the thread about using more 12 personnel. The linked article talks about Pats*** adding 2 TEs. Then it assumed (for argument) that Miami is going to take TE Pitts at #6. Since winning the division is the surest path to the playoffs, I wonder if McBeane will draft based on who NE drafts (QB Zack Jones maybe), and who Fish draft (Pitts maybe), before deciding what position or what player is needed. (JESTS are irrelevant) If Fish take Pitts, we really need to be able to cover TEs. Maybe more than pass rush, since throws to TEs are usually quick reads. OTOH, if Fish take OL or WR, then CB2 might be more of a priority, and especially one who is great at Zone (which if probably the only type of CB we are interested in, anyway).

i think this is how it works for McBeane. They dont think "we are gonna get mr. X no matter what." They think "these are the 3-5 guys we need. We damn sure better get one of them, no matter what." I think the only way they move down from 30 is if more than one is there. I do NOT think they are gonna sit at 30 and hope a quality player falls to them. They arent interested in "a quality player." They are interested in players they think will be true NFL players, and who can contribute THIS year. The discussion in the TBD draft thread v1 about JOK sounds about right. IF they think he will be on the field enuf to justify the pick, that's somebody I could see them moving up for. A potentially special player.

Strongly disagree 1) this is exactly the time for teams to get Watson at a discount. 2) This is perfect cover for the Texans to retreat from their "line in the sand" stance that they will never trade him. They can use the allegations to save face, and after the trade, claim that they are a zero tolerance team (or some such PC fluff nonsense). 3) I'd guesstimate that, when the Panthers are on the clock, their phone will ring. 'Sir, the Texans are on line one.' There will have been discussions prior, so it should only take a couple minutes. It just FEELS like David Tepper is going to get Watson, instead of trying to move up, since QB is now a lock at 1, 2, and 3. 4) I wouldnt rule out SF. They might offer 3 (and whatever) for Watson, and the Texans can take their QB of the future, if they have their eyes on somebody.

Yes, Brieda was never a Panther, which is odd. But this article solves the mystery. Brieda checks the other box. "As a student-athlete at Nature Coast Technical High School (Florida), Breida also kept himself busy by wrestling in the winter and running track in the spring—a potent multi-sport recipe for any football player."

2 part question: 1) does your 3rd down opinion include pass protection, or just swing and flat route runner with good hands. I ask because you said he's 'smaller.' 2) Do the Bills actually keep RBs in to block on 3rd downs? Seems that with JA such a threat to run, scramble, evade, etc., maybe we prefer to just send everybody out. Except maybe 3rd and a mile, when you need to let routes develop.

Rusty Hardin is a BALLER. He used to have segments and guest spots on CourtTV back in the day. Actually, I think he might be past his prime now, but uses the name, and hopefully some good associates, to keep the Rusty Hardin train rollin.

But I dont want my rookies begging for time. I want them to make me make hard decisions because they're too good to keep off the field. (understanding that QB might be the arguable exception). For this, I mean like the first 3 rounders should be playing asap, because they are just too good, because we drafted well.

I dont think you ever take a RB in the very-late first round. I think you take a position where you might actually want the valuable 5th year option. I know this is a NO-TRADE draft but, if I cant trade out of 30, I'm taking a much more valuable position. As in: Not a fungible widget who I can replace pretty much every year in the draft. (and GB: wow. you should be paid for the work you put in. As soon as I saw the title of the post, I had to pause and get my snacks and settle in for a nice, long, enjoyable read. Thankyousir).

I dont think you trade back into the First for a rb. You do it for a player you want the valuable 5th year option on. Nobody cares about the 5th year option on a rb. Drive him into the ground for 4 years, then draft more. Ergo, I say the Bills would / should rather trade out of 30 than waste it on a rb or any other position where they dont care about the 5th year. Use it on somebody you will want to keep for 10 years.