birdog1960

wow. so what's that little sliver of orange amidst all the red in wny? lewiston? youngstown?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/06/22/ben-carson-south-carolina-shooting-column/29074387/ "Let's call this sickness what it is, so we can get on with the healing. If this were a medical disease, and all the doctors recognized the symptoms but refused to make the diagnosis for fear of offending the patient, we could call it madness. But there are people who are claiming that they can lead this country who dare not call this tragedy an act of racism, a hate crime, for fear of offending a particular segment of the electorate." Ben Carson

well and truly done with this. i've given an instructive example and you concentrate on minutia that is irrelevant to the discussion. pretty typical of the boards cons...

whether it's different or not (and i believe it is) a system that allows for what i described is broken and needs repairs.

the anecdote was given to address how and why i would fix loopholes in gunlaws. done.

“Our ancestors were literally fighting to keep human beings as slaves, and to continue the unimaginable acts that occur when someone is held against their will,” said State Senator Paul Thurmond, a Republican, explaining that he would vote to remove the flag. “I am not proud of this heritage,” said Mr. Thurmond, the son of Strom Thurmond, the former governor and United States senator who was a segregationist candidate for president in 1948.

this minutia matters only to those that refuse to see the racist implications in any confederate flag. they are rapidly becoming an unimportant and ignored voice. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/24/us/south-carolina-nikki-haley-confederate-flag.html?_r=0 “To see all of this happening, all of a sudden, it speaks of some fundamental change in the country,” said Kerry L. Haynie, a political scientist at Duke University. “It is surprising in the sense that there have been calls for this for years. But it took this tragedy to spur this type of change.” sounds strangely familiar.

that was your boss right?

army of northern virginia. there would have been no advantage to anyone for me to buy the gun from cabellas except that i would have paid at least twice as much. nothing would have changed. the law was and is the law. i can simultaneously work for it's change to protect society from the dangerous transactions it enables while legally perform such transaction with little to no risk of those potentially fatal consequences.

i use it for hunting and varmints. we have coyotes around. i'd use it on them if needed. and i'd use it in a break in if i felt my family was threatened. very few liberals that i know have a problem with a shotgun for those uses owned by a solid citizen. i certainly don't. and the mechanism is now in place. my use of it injures no one. money talks. racism isn't on the right side of the money on this one altho i read that sales for the flags are booming. seems some folks find them a must have.

here's a good start. seems reasonable but of course it FAILED to pass. http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/10/17689167-background-checks-for-guns-what-you-need-to-know

ok. i'll give you a personal example. i got my most recent shotgun through a friends husband that frequents gun shows: buys and sells. totally legal. he asked me what i was looking for and i gave him a general description and price and he got me a very nice gun at a very fair price. though he wouldn't, he could have done that for some gang banger or out of control psych patient. so i contend that the whole mechanism of buying and selling guns at shows should be made illegal.

do you know some real high quality racists then?

the point of the linked articlle was that roof was an outlier. an unusual, rebel flag waving, drug addled, dysfunctyionally ancestored, moronic, alcoholic racist. the point is that he wasn't an outlier. he's quite typical.

evolution? i'll bet there are many racists that deny it and are simultaneously negative examples for its existence.

better late than never (like here for example). but why did it take the murder of 9 people to convince presumably fairly intelligent people that the flag was a destructive symbol? kinda doesn't smell right.

so you mean like the assurance of equal rights under the law? that kind of federal intervention? was strom thurmond a hero of yours? In opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1957, he conducted the longest filibuster ever by a lone senator, at 24 hours and 18 minutes in length, nonstop. In the 1960s, he opposed the civil rights legislation of 1964 and 1965 to end segregation and enforce the constitutional rights of African-American citizens, including suffrage. He always insisted he had never been a racist, but was opposed to excessive federal authority. He attributed the movement to practice constitutional rights to Communist agitators.[5] In 1948, Thurmond stated: "all the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, into our schools, our churches and our places of recreation and amusement." [5 ] Starting in the 1970s, he moderated his position on race, but continued to defend his early segregationist campaigns on the basis of states' rights in the context of Southern society at the time.[6] He never fully renounced his earlier viewpoints.[7][8] Six months after Thurmond died in 2003, his mixed-race, grown daughter Essie Mae Washington-Williams revealed that he was her father. Her mother Carrie Butler had been 16 years old and working as his family's maid when she became involved with Thurmond, who was 22. Although Thurmond never publicly acknowledged Essie Mae Washington, he paid for her education at a historically black college and passed other money to her for some time. She said that she kept silent out of respect for her father[9] and denied that the two had agreed that she would not reveal her connection to Thurmond.[10] His children by his marriage eventually acknowledged her.[9] Her name has since been added as one of his children to his memorial at the state capital so i suppose the laws and the army didn't have to force a negro into his bed, then.

those and some other not very admirable, desirable or attractive traits comprise a fairly accurate profile of many american racists. they almost certainly know. but conceding this would concede the more fundamental reasons for the defense of the symbol.

history explains the symbolism of the flag: "After the war ended, the symbol became a source of Southern pride and heritage, as well as a remembrance of Confederate soldiers who died in battle. But as racism and segregation gripped the nation in the century following, it became a divisive and violent emblem of the Ku Klux Klan and white supremacist groups. It was also the symbol of the States' Rights Democratic Party, or "Dixiecrats," that formed in 1948 to oppose civil-rights platforms of the Democratic Party. Then-South Carolina Gov. Strom Thurmond was the splinter group's nominee for president that same year; he won 39 electoral votes" http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/22/416548613/the-complicated-political-history-of-the-confederate-flag

as an aside,a gift for the golfer you don't like very much ( a present from a coworker- i thought she liked me before this). http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=37667006&camp=CSE:BingShoppingPaid:37667006:18841236:GOLF%20ACCESSORIES&CA_6C15C=120138600001359884. extremely frustating!

golf, fishing, gardening, cooking, skiing. my goal was to retire at 55. not happening but work is actually one of the most fulfilling things in my life. unless that changes, i will likely work at least part time til i'm not considered useful anymore.

"the speith effect" http://jeffmacke1.tumblr.com/post/122164507463/the-spieth-effect-how-to-trade-golfs-comeback. ha ha...good, golf needs it. anyone else miss seeing kids out playing? rarely see any except when high school golf starts in the fall. and johnson's birdie putt definetly bounced. but he pulled it. if he hadn't it probably would have gone in.

ummm…the par for 1 hole or 72 holes in the championship doesn't matter. it's the total number of strokes taken to complete 72 holes. speith shot a 4 on the 72nd hole. johnson a 5. does anyone really think either would have tried a safer drive/approach to reach that hole in that situation if it had been deemed a 4 par instead of a 5 yesterday? hit their putts differently? no way. johnson didn't make 3 on the 72nd hole. not even close. and he didn't make 4 even knowing he needed a 4 to keep alive. hence the story today.

totally agree. when the south african went ob, i didn't think that a choke as much as a bad swing. it's much easier to mishit a drive than a putt imo. lots more to go wrong. 3 putting from 12 feet is almost definitely nerves at this level. a push or big cut, not so much.

only if you are poor and severely ill tho right? you are truly a pos.