birdog1960

and there's no reason to limit yourself to the losers either, unless........that's all you can get

uh huh. These moves definitely illustrate a new philosophy and commitment to winning. Who needs top tier, established, widely coveted players, management and coaches? Conventional wisdom is for losers. We just need a little luck as rw likes to remind us. Unfortunately, he's had bad luck in about 2/3 of his seasons and he doesn't appear ready to make any drastic changes to turn that luck. Why should he if people buy season tickets after a show of such pathetic effort (ie spending) to improve? "Buffalo will support a loser as well as any city"(rw, SI, 1969)

yup, that and the bandwagon fallacy (argumentum ad populum) are favorites here. You could direct a course on logical fallacies using a few posters here as textbook examples. Negativism is rarely popular even if based on strong premises but from your reply, I'll wager you can hold your own in an argument.

link?

so, you're saying boldin wouldn't help us? Would you be upset if the bills were in the running for him? Are you happy that those fools in ne are?

see white, reggie

same losing year after year after year. peppers?...we don't need no stinkin peppers! frack him for not signing with the bills for the nfl minimum.

yep, we sure wouldn't want julius peppers with all our pro bowl defensive ends...and didn't new england reportedly make a play for him. Still, I'm really concerned about rw's net worth...best not spend much on fa's.

no, no it isn't. rw is still here and will likely exert his demented will at the draft

Right on all counts

not fighting. I honestly think there are reasons to avoid Chinese tires (actually there are at least 450,000 reasons as that's the number of the biggest recall) especially house brands and I think the op should be aware of this before making a choice. But I am more than a little irked at tire rack for selling chinese house brand tires that their vp of marketing states (in the msnbc article that I cited) he wouldn't want on a car traveling behind him. I find this topic interesting outside my own experience as well as it involves protectionism, tariffs, unions (Steel workers represent US tire workers and us regulatory agencies-NHSTA). So, as someone with insight into the industry how do you feel about Chinese tires safety in general or branded vs nonbranded? (btw,the nonbranded tires origin is often not disclosed by dealers) There's a chance your Kumho's came from there as they have a plant there. In my opinion it may well be that the branded Chinese made tires are as good as those made anywhere (especially Michelin, given their reported excellent quality control) but why take a chance?

and from that you infer that they publish all severely negative reviews?

I posted 4-5 emails for the review page on the Avon Tyres (I remember the name now- avon tech m550 ultra high performance, w speed rated)) with the story of the sidewall blowout-none published. when I inquired, they stated that they reserve the right to post which ever reviews they choose. Eventually, I saw an article on yahoo finance quoting their ceo on not allowing his family to ride in a car with cheap chinese made tires. I emailed him directly thanking him for allowing me and my family to do just that. Avons are no longer carried at tire rack although I'll bet there are some chinese made major branded tires available there still.

Don't trust tire rack's surveys and comments on their web site.. They don't publish severely negative reviews. They used to sell a "house brand" tire that I've forgotten the name of that was highly rated on the site. I bought them (very low profile v rated) and had a sidewall blowout at 10000 miles on the highway doing 70. They were about 150 each, brand name would've cost about $220. They wouldn't publish my review but have recently removed the brand. There are a lot of inferior, cheap chinese made tires out there that are unsafe. I will never again buy cheap tires and recommend against it to everyone. Stick with the big names like michelin, goodyear, bridgestone etc. Not a guarantee but your odds are better. I have goodyear eagles on 1 car and bridgestone potenzas on the other and their both worth the extra money.

the writer seemed to really understand rw.."not given to dilettantish dabbling in sports..and was soothsayerlike in stating he would move the team to the yukon if he could make money there. I think the writing is even more impressive in retrospect. Winning wasn't the priority then and it isn't now.

I posted it about a month ago with reference to rw's statement that "buffalonians will support a loser as well as any city" and the only response was that I really hold a grudge since I cited a 1969 article. No one admitted to reading the article. It seems context dictates interest on the stadium wall.

try to give this statement a little more thought...if those who have done well and could retire early except for the incredibly high cost of individual health insurance, did indeed retire, there would be many more open jobs to decrease the unemployment rolls. This group isn't looking for a handout but a reasonably priced policy to buy. Unfortuanetly private insurers have no incentive to offer such plans. I know many people in this situation. Aside from this argument, small businesses (like mine) are quickly reaching the point where employer provided medical insurance is no longer feasible. When a significant percentage of us get there, the public will be begging for public health care. Profit and medicine mix very poorly. If you don't agree, take a look at the rapidly growing concierge medicine movement. The implications for access to care are very scary.

care to be a little more specific? I didn't intend to write an allegory. It was a simple analogy meant to be taken on its face.

let me make an analogy that counters your argument: A woman finishes top medical training with the idealistic notion of starting a rural practice. She establishes said privately owned business in an area with few other doctors. She almost immediately has patients knocking down her door to see her and has offers from much larger communities offering better pay and hours. She chooses to stay where she believes she's most needed but with the great demand, she could easily "phone it in" and not keep up to date on new developments or go to long, tiring medical meetings or maintain long hours. The patients would still come. She would still make a good living. She believes she owes it to her patients to provide them the best care she can. After 50 years, she realizes that her skills have faded and she recruits her replacement who takes over a very successful practice. She retires a local hero. Ralph would probably think her stupid and naive.

So, relative to those ass####s, he's a great man, right? Uh, ok, I'll buy that.

that makes it all the more salient. "Wilson's not dilattentish in sports. His afl team is a profitable enterprise and he means to keep it that way even if it means moving to the Yukon". Wilson was threatening the area with moving even then, after a 1-13 season, and holding the fans and the city hostage despite their filling the stadium for a miserable team. It illustrates that his mo has remained constant over 50 years and dispels much of the revisionist history spouted so often here.

SI vault January 20, 1969 page 5. Interesting SI article on Buffalo"s sports scene back then. "Buffalonians will support a loser as well as any city"...

this, ralph publicly stated years ago that Buffalo will support a loser and he's played that angle to the max.

fully agree with the sentiment in the piece and I feel bills fans deserve more respect than wilson shows.