birdog1960

this is a silly analogy. as someone with season tickets in the early years, I always hoped that rw would see the light. I was willing to invest emotionally and monetarily on that hope and the promise of better things to come. rw obliquely promising improvement is not a new phenomenon. you can't choose where you grow up and you would be considered downright disturbed growing up in wny and not being a bills fan then. there are thousands of places to get a good burger and i would venture to guess that some people get them at older, inferior restaurants for the memories. even though they make this choice, is it not their right to complain that it aint what it used to be? BK unlikely makes many peoples list in that regard but at least there you're always gonna get exactly what you expect and what they advertise. so you keep buying the bills bad burgers and i'll keep complaining about them til they improve. btw, have you ever written a bad product review on amazon or do you only write good ones?

i'm willing to concede that wilson's keeping the bills in buffalo is to his great credit. i just don't think it makes up for the almost 50 years of lousy product he's been selling at astronomical profit. the bills are the nfl equivalent of goldman sachs-selling products they know will fail. much should be expected from those given much (or something like that).

btw, i don't agree at all that Tim's was the only thoughtful media input here...please don't run off the other great journalist sources like Lori and John.

agreed. i think the beginning of the end was the schottenheimer article and Tim Graham alludes to this. the personal attacks on reporters who objectively cover and thus write negative things about a struggling franchise are unfair and mean spirited. they are defense mechanisms that allow the deluded to continue their fantasies at significant cost. unfortunately, the end result is the further loss of objectivity here. did nevergiveup ever mention the schottenheimer dealings? it may become just as informative to go to the official bills site for "inside info" if we keep losing posters like Graham.

no, it wouldn't... but the Little Willies/norah jones stuff on you tube is pretty cool. wanna resell your cd's? maybe you could suggest them for next years sb halftime show.

sigh, me too but I prefer michael buble (the other guy was on lawrence welk, right?). wonder what jw thinks of norah jones? trying to imagine the opposite of michael buble...maybe something like megadeath.. don't have a poster of them either

touche. never really got that rule. counterintuitive to me.

let the red ink fly! my recently graduated lawyer niece recently sent me a thank you note extolling my wife and i as "roll models" (maybe she felt the gift too small). i'm a couple of pounds over ideal body weight but really don't deserve that. it was unexpected from someone who should be a bit of a wordsmith. grammar is important in work or school related documents and even in traditional letter writing. i think , for better or worse, bad grammar is acceptable and even expected on the internet.

dancers correctly use this word to describe a deliberate and beautiful leg extension with arched back by the female partner while supported by the male lead....but more on topic, i still have my high school copy of Strunk and White but i'm not about to refer to it to post on a message board. if the point is communicated, what is the problem? i think a more important issue is the logic or lack thereof of many posters in forming conclusions. If people would just stop employing logical fallacies to support their opinions, they would almost always agree with me.

makes perfect sense except his actions don't fit your theory...look at actuarial tables(and you can bet rw does) and you should know there should be an immediate urgency to win. rebuilding over 2-3 years is not really a good bet if winning before demise is the goal. so where are the big free agent signings?..this would be his best chance of iaccomplishing your hypothetical goal for him.. if he were to throw big money at it it could be done (e.g. Cleveland). Regarding his staying put in buffalo, no one has refuted my earlier reasoning as to why this might be so.

i always appreciate your reasoned, thoughtful, calm arguments. besides over loyalty (which i'm guilty of for nostalgic reasons), blindness and apathy, there is the fact that it's almost the only show in town. When there's one choice and it's not a good one, that's a bad situation. I don't knowingly put any money in rw's pocket and wish others wouldn't either but that's an unrealistic expectation.

i think you picked the low hanging fruit. i've owned a small business for many years...competitors faced with the same challenges are everywhere..some have failed and a some have done better financially. I like to think that our product quality has been near the top and to me that's just as important as the financial success. they are synergistic. ultimately, I'm responsible for making it happen or not, in all circumstances, snow or no snow, recession or boom times..just as is wilson but he's consistently put out a very poor product. I think he can be blamed for that.

what was dick jauron's great crime? he seems almost universally hated here because he was a bad, losing coach. what's so different about a losing owner?

many remain unconvinced of wilson's committment to winning..if he truly is committed to it then he is really, really bad at it (over a 50 year period) or he's incredibly unlucky. i favor the theory that winning is not the highest priority. regarding his staying in buffalo, this could be explained by the agreement made with the govt at the time of the afl/nfl merger that allowed the deal to skirt the anti-trust laws. i don't find it particularly virtuous that he kept his word to congress to keep his team in place.

the nfl is an example of a monopoly, not a free market

happens all the time...people upside down on their mortgages tell the banks they'll walk unless they lower the principal or change the terms...banks even do it to each other..and you can bet when the owners have the leverage they do it to whoever they can...they just call it renegotiating. why not the players?

knew that guy too, but i called him Mr. sh*tlips

Sorry fellow Bills fanatics but this is reality. Without a QB, O-Line or a proven NT to anchor the 3-4 I don't see us competing this season. Enjoy the misery at the Ralph while I get to watch the Chargers play well until it matters. Sorry Buffalo fans but it will be another long season for us all but I have the pleasure of attending games where the home team wins. you can keep california, the land of fruits and nuts, as far as I'm concerned...probably a good place for you

i wish we still had peters

you forgot "it's all ralph's fault"....can't be said enough

they are still a very big deal... unless you consider a cadaver implant or patella tendon division anchored by screws minor. ever had one repaired? Mine reminds me every day especially when pushed doing something like skiing. And like everything else there are good repairs and bad repairs. Not all are equal. some knees go very badly...remember Brady?

who cares. he's under contract. If he pulls a peters, let him collect fines and no paycheck. Hopefully nix is smarter than trading everyone that "doesn't want to be here". It shouldn't be left up to the players. they need to undo a bad precedent.

the second coming

juvenile or not this has kept me laughing for 2 days. Why should kids have all the fun?

pull my finger