how many topics are we debating simutaneously in this thread? kinda like fighting 2 or 3 wars simultaneously - often inneffective for all concerned. not at all sure what la's lifestyle has to do with any of this. he could be a hermit,acrobat or zookeeper that frequents tiki bars and it wouldn't offer further insight into his group think dualism. why should we care?
but obama keeps getting invoked. and the same posters tell us that cheney is not relevant and should be ignored. so i did a little experiment that you all can do at home without parental supervision, i searchrd "cheny, obama, iraq" and despite his irrelevance i got thousands of hits, including many within the last month. the links were to places like the wall st journal, the nationaql register, fox, hannity and even nbc,cbs and abc. i found it all rather confusing. seems posters here avoid all of these sites like the plague. do all the cons here limit their news gathering to the bbc like darin? hmm, "bbc,cheney,obama,iraq"...
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27911385