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I finally got around to watching Buddy Nix meet the press after being hired as GM. The guy sounds JUST like Ross Perot. Hilarious! The draft is bigger than the first round but I hope this guy can make half of the popular pre draft 1st round picks that we here on the board have wanted over the years. If we just went back even 7 years imagine the team we could have right now. Pay the right guys to stay, draft guys like Brian McKinney over Mike Williams, Haloti Ngata over Donte Whitner, Brian Orakpo over Aaron Maybin just to name a few. It's too depressing to try to think of them all and all of the would of, could of should, of's but some have been so obvious it turns your stomach.

Your point is?

UGGGHHH....Last time we did that it was Trent Edwards!!!!! I am so sick of us trying to get a bargain and half assing things. If you want a franchise QB you draft him in the first round and you draft him as EARLY as possible. There are absolutely no guarantees of success by drafting early but there is a GREATLY increasing chance of failure drafting later. Everyone keeps point out a Tom Brady or some other lucky non first round pick that actually turned into something as justification of the draft a QB late strategy. A Tom Brady in the 6th round comes around once every....well.....forever...there has been only one in the entire history of the NFL and AFL.

Ya man. People suffer from the "Tom Brady Effect". They look at incredible long shots like Brady, Warner, Romo and think why bother drafting a QB in the first round? They focus on it's possible to get a franchise guy late, not what your actual odds of success are doing so.

Nice work. Lost of stats. What I take away from this is that over 50% of the starters were 1st round picks. You will always find some late round or free agent gems that kick around for a while and then reach stardom 3 - 8 years after college. I would be challenged to find a QB that did it for the team that actually drafted them or gave them their first undrafted free agent contract. If you want a good chance at getting a guy that can help you in his 1st or 2nd year you get your QB in the first round!!! How many of those non first round QBs helped their team in their first or second year? If you want to draft a starting QB, you get them in the first round every time!!! That is a more consistent recipe for success. If not ....get a free agent that somebody else drafted who is ready to step up to the next level.

While those numbers are interesting I am more focused on these numbers on that site: Power success 31st 10+ Runs 32st Sacks 31st I did find it a surprise that Buffalo ranks 10th in some "adjusted" ranking for runs up the middle. Given how generally horrible we are everywhere else it was at first weird to see this stat until I thought of who our running backs are. Our RBs and Lynch in particular are some of the VERY best in the league at driving the pile and getting extra yardage after initial contact. Jackson is really good at it too but I have seen Lynch's leg churn alone turn a 1 yard loss into a 4 yard gain. I know that stat is supposed to be "adjusted" but I can't help but think it is our RBs making something out of nothing more than the line blowing up holes for our guys. I just DO NOT see any in game dominance up the middle that would corroborate what those stats would seem to suggest. I do appreciate your attempted to find some sort of supporting documentation to back up your argument but I am definitely not sold at all. I am completely in 100% wait and see mode like I am with Maybin. If we had anyone that could play guard at an average level I think Wood and Levitre would have been on the bench most of the time like Maybin. Until I see some production on the field I have no indication that these guys are the answer. The only thing that they have going for them is that they are young and "unknown" commodities as opposed to being experienced and "known" to be bad.

I hope your right but I do wonder what it is on the field that you see that gives you hope that our poor offensive line is going to be very good in the interior for years to come? Currently we are bad and we definitely can't run up the middle. It is perhaps unfair but when I think of lines that have hope of being good for years to come I think of lines that have guys like, Jake Long?, Joe Thomas, and others who get critical acclaim and make it to probowls potentially in their rookies years. I'm not saying any of our guys are "bad" but in the situations with the others I am comparing them to their lines got significantly better with their addition and didn't take a turn for the worse like ours did. I want our line to be great too but I have to maintain some degree of objectivity.

True but I'm a bit more forgiving as I realize that this was a huge undertaking and the line is incredibly raw that will need a lot of playing time on the field AND playing together to gain experience and become a strength instead of a liability. That being said the lines performance right now is NOT good. It is below average. I know, I know everyone wanted to pump up the line and say how good it was going to be with the rookies, free agents and practice squad guys. They hated Peters and then Walker, because he couldn't replace Peters, so much that they thought that that collection of guys was going to somehow magically turn into a great line and our proven performers were fat and lazy.

You mean Lynch actually runs through holes when they are open? Amazing!!! I was almost starting to buy into the "he's not a starter", " he dances too much" crowds arguments. LOL. Good for Levitre. We need to start seeing something to build on for the future. Too bad about Woods and Butler. Every snap for our guys is critical. Hopefully next year we won't have to build the wheel again from scratch.

Agreed! Corporate criminals and those that make millions if not billions on questionable back door deals selling arms and mercenaries for hire should be put away for life. Throw away the key!!! Those scum erode our confidence and pride in this great country. Why is it when you give a politician money or favorable treatment to them or their friends to see things your way it's called a campaign contribution but when you give money to an officer of the law it's a bribe? I don't get it.

Can't believe I already checked to see if this topic existed. LOL. I have this to stir the pot with that comes with ABSOLUTELY no knowledge of any inside info nor a great knowledge of college football other than how it applies to the next draft. How attractive would this look to a candidate to fill both the GM and Head Coach position. Charlie Wiess Jimmy Clausen Charlie seemed to do pretty well under Belicheck as an OC if I recall. A guy that needs to rebound. Supposedly he has been contacted by 6 teams for an OC position. His name has even been mentioned with the Buffalo vacancy at HC. From what I hear the QB and the coach had a great relationship. Wiess could help "translate" the NFL for Clausen and perhaps present a unique opportunity to start fast minimizing our pain of waiting 2 years to see if we even get the slightest inkling that the guy might make it at QB. I wonder if any one of the big names we have approached for the HC job might prefer Wiess for OC which many have to be thinking already AND if they have an eye for Clausen in the draft the opportunity for such a synergy might be difficult to resist. Buffalo is perhaps the only team that can offer a new super coach the ability to draft a new QB, pick their own offensive coordinator with little discussion AND assume some if not all the GM's duties and responsibility for player talent moves. Let Russ Brandon handle the contract negotiations and all the back office BS associated with running the "Buffalo Bills" the business. LET COWER OR SHANAHAN RUN THE TEAM!!

My bad if I put words in your mouth. Apparently we do agree that the injury wasn't the reason why the Bills didn't resign him. I am curious though why you even brought it up. Hopefully you can see how I was confused about that point. You have a point I'll give you rehab was necessary. I'm not sure what "SERIOUS" questions they might have had for him after undergoing successful surgery but I'm sure you can give me some examples. NOT!! LOL. For a professional athlete I'm pretty sure the mundane rehab wouldn't have been a problem. They are used to exercising. I guess his eventual recovery from the injury is somewhat proof that there wasn't a significant risk. Especially considering how lazy many say he is. The rehab really must have been no big deal at all. If a fat lazy greedy bastard could get through it I can't image there was much risk there. The whole "he wouldn't play here" stuff is tired too. I have repeatedly challenged anyone to provide any proof of this. Even IF it was true, which is possible, he was fed up with being jilted financially by the cheap front office and might have had enough. At some point you have to accept that a relationship isn't going to work. Perhaps he had resigned himself to play at the incredibly cheap contract that they wanted him to play for and then he was going to move on to a team that appreciated him specifically in the way of financial compensation. As usual things can be looked at in many ways. The negative way was that he was never going to play for us after the contract is up because he NEVER wanted to stay in Buffalo. The positive way to look at it was that he WANTED to stay in Buffalo but they had screwed him around so much that he decided the best thing he could do was to play out the remainder of his contract at a silly low value and wash his hands of a historically, notoriously cheap franchise. The Bills kept using that "report to camp and we'll talk" routine on him. All that was was a promise to talk which amounts to exactly....NOTHING!

Uh ...yes.....yes there is! I don't recall any medical report saying that there was even the remotest possibility that Peters groin surgery could end or impact his career. You can't blow it out of proportion to try to defend the Bills approach with him. Don't buy into it! THAT is not the reason why they didn't pay him. This isn't Angelo Crowell we are talking about. A successful surgery on a groin injury means that it is fixed therefore no impact on his ability to play football. Get it? It's not like he was getting a leg amputated and a successful surgery means that his leg was removed. That WOULD affect his ability to play football. Groin injury, no. See the difference?

Little bit of a difference between a run of the mill groin surgery compared to a totally mangled leg I would say. Also, if the supposed real reason why the Bills didn't resign Peters is because he didn't show and they couldn't verify the progress of his run of the mill injury they are even bigger dolts than I thought!!!! We all know in a hold out you don't show up and practice. Kind of defeats the purpose of a hold out no? Sounds like more smoke and mirrors for me that fans have bought into. Solely blame the player for the dispute but the front office was being shrewd and frugal. Of the picks we got for Peters that matter we have a promising rookie TE who has played fewer games than Peters and a LG who now has a severely mangled leg and will ALSO likely play fewer games than Peters by seasons end.

Ah somebody who also gets it. You can't get better if you keep moving backwards and making new holes to fill. In addition to now needing a quality LT we still need those positions you mentioned. LB in particular we need more than one. Mitchell is coming back from a season ending injury. Ellison is a solid LB but we still need an upgrade with some size and speed. Poz gets hurt EVERY year!!! LOL. I can't wait until they try to resign Poz. I wonder if the Peters haters will consider him as much of a injury risk and be OK with it if the front office low balls him an offer big time. If we don't spend it on a QB we will probably use a first round pick to get a ROOKIE LT that we hope won't turn into Mike Williams 2. Not sure who is in free agency or the draft but between those two sources and the youth that is already on the roster we need 2 starting LBs and a DT that can start. Kyle Williams is the little engine that could and does a decent job but we need a HUGE body to put along side Stroud and possibly replace him eventually. Kyle Williams would be a GREAT guy to come off the bench but we need at least one more guy in that rotation and a BIG ONE at that.

I agree with your other points but right....Peters was NO GOOD at run blocking. ROFLOL....Let the hate go man. Someday you'll be able to look back on this with less emotion and be able to say yep.....the Bills wouldn't pay another one and surprise surprise he went to get a pay check elsewhere.

My point is Farve and Rivers were BOTH GOOD. Farve later in the year suffered from injury but at the beginning when healthy was pretty much the best QB in football with the possible exception of Kurt Warner or Drew Brees. I DO NOT KNOW THIS FOR FACT but aren't probowl selections during the later part of the regular season? Perhaps the voting was also in before his TORN FREAKIN BICEP TENDON affected his play significantly. Again don't use the player X in year Y shouldn't have made it excuses to invalidate ANYONE you personally feel shouldn't have made it because the nomination is actual factual proof that shoots down your argument.

Logic applied to the situation...SHOCKING.....maybe we should instead hate on the guy and try to come up with BS excuses for our sour grapes. It is so funny! Really. The haters are just crying sour grapes. AFTER ALL THIS TIME people still haven't learned the lesson of that parable. CLOWNS!!!!

WAIT....you mean Schobel sat out of camp and the front office pays him and he is a hero while Peters held out didn't get paid and is a villain. ...Hrm.....sounds like the only difference to me is the front office deciding to pay an injured Schobel and not Peters. The difference between hero and good team mate and villain and fat bastard are if the front office decides to pay you or try to run you down in the press.

WAIT....you mean Schobel sat out of camp and the front office pays him and he is a hero while Peters held out didn't get paid and is a villain. ...Hrm.....sounds like the only difference to me is the front office deciding to pay an injured Schobel and not Peters. The difference between hero and good team mate and villain and fat bastard are if the front office decides to pay you or tries to run you down in the press.

"Off the record" LOL.....nice ....I think I'll try it too. ...... eh emm......here we go... I have a close friend that works at one Bills drive. I was told by him that Russ Brandon didn't want to look soft handling contract negotiations and that he wanted to set a precedent by not granting Peters fair market value for his services. Ralph anticipating the down turn in the economy did not want to commit that kind of cash to any player as he wanted to keep some of his financial resources liquid. The supposed injury issue was used as a clever smoke screen to help lend legitimacy to what the Bills have done since the advent of free agency and that is let high priced talent go. Russ Brandon was reported patting himself on the back for standing up and letting talent walk out the door again" SCREW YOU IF YOU WANT A LINK TO PROVE WHAT I JUST SAID See how stupid that sounds? I'll just allege anything I like and then call YOU a jerk for asking for proof. Nice try but inquiring minds want to know.

You are right. But I don't allude to things that can't be proven. On the expect hold ....uh....we could have considered option "B"....PAY THE MAN = NO HOLD OUT!!! As usual frugality won out and we let talent go instead of acquiring it.

If you want people to understand what you mean try using the proper tense dingleberry. It get's your point across much better which is what I was making fun of. Throw out all the profanity you want, you're the guy that needs the grammar lesson. So on the Peters contract you're basically confirming what I said right? Deeeeeeeerrr. He signed his RT tackle contract deal in 2006 and was promptly moved to LT that same season. Is it sinking in now? Signed when he was a RT....promoted to LT during that year. Played LT for part of 2006 and all of 2007 and 2008 at a RT wage. Hopefully that is clear enough for you although people of little integrity find it impossible to acknowledge a good point that someone they are arguing with has made. Let the hate go you Russ Brandon, Ralph Wilson, Guy lovin' chump!!!

Typical lame response with no integrity. Make a claim. Ask SOMEONE ELSE to find your proof and supporting documentation. Sorry the burden of proof is on you. I indeed thought we got rid of Jennings later in his career. If we didn't, I ask again what the hell does that have to do with Peters especially seeing as how we didn't trade him but he was a free agent when San Fran got him.