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BUT BUT BUT .....how can we discuss getting top 5 players that we won't trade up for and will never fall to us? Eh...em...RG3 or either of the top 2 WRs in this draft!!...LOL

The ONLY way we say screw defense in the first round is if a LT or a WR falls to us....It ain't happening.

Rob, on 03 January 2012 - 08:33 AM, said: Clearly we need depth, but I don't see many positions of glaring weakness. OLB is a hole and maybe DE if we go 4-3, but what else? On offense another top WR would be nice and possibly an upgrade at QB, but I don't see either as a gaping hole. What are all these holes I keep hearing about? You mean like people gloss over the points that our WRs dropped like flies? Our #2 WR for most of the year was a wild cat QB and we started 3 different LTs and 4 different centers not to mention losing Freddie who was looking like the best RB in the league? I'm sure those factors had NOTHING to do with our QBs and the teams performance Drew Brees would have looked like crap with what we had and possibly ended up on IR.

THIS!!! ....with one caveat. I think we have enough CBs to do the job. An actual pass rush will make them look SOOO much better. That being said a LB and or a big safety that can cover TE's (eh em..New England) is imperative! Unless we plan on making our goal a wild card spot every year only to eventually lose to the Pats we need to beat the guys that have owned the division the last 10 years. Unlike most teams New England beats you up around and in between the hashes making your high paid cover corners useless because they don't throw out there very often and kill you with Welker and their TE combo.

Vincent Jackson due to his relationship with Nix in San Diego and Bowe due to his relationship with Gailey in KC are my top two guys to look for. SJ is ranked 19th in yards and 21st in TDs for WRs. Basically he would be a #2 WR on most of the teams in the league. I would pay him the $7.5 million a year he is asking for if there were clauses in his contract that would dock his pay if he gets penalties for celebrations.

We weren't a run first offense so your point is moot. Unless we invent a time machine neither of us will know for sure. You can't stick with "actuaility" eh em....theory....because we weren't run first. I guess we are two guys with theories that can't be proven.

When both of your RBs are averaging over 5 yards a carry AND are great WRs.....yes it would make a difference in the W/L column.

Fitz should never have been the focus of our offense especially after our WR started dropping like flies and we were pulling people who were unemployed to play for us. His #2 for most of the year was a freakin' wild cat QB and he is expected to kick ass with that? Different set of guys every week or two? How do you develop continuity and chemistry with that. Throw in playing behind 4 different centers and 3 different LTs all year. Come on!

Both Carolina and Minnesota also have crappy defenses. Our defense is pretty much smack dab in the middle of the 2. Points allowed Minn is #2, Buffalo #3 and Carolina #6. Seems like the negatives of the defense outweigh the positives of a good rushing attack by a VERY large margin. Problem is they aren't in any way linked. New Orleans, Houston, Pittsburgh and the Detroit have great rushing attacks by way of yardage. Houston, New England, NYG and New Orleans are also tops in Rushing TDs. All you can really say is that teams with MPV, probowl, elite, once every 5 year type QBs do very well when surrounded with talent like an o-line that can give them 3+ seconds of protection time and WRs that fight for and catch the ball in the air.

Any one of those guys makes sense. I vote for WR since they would help right away. The top 2 WRs in the draft will be gone by pick #10 and we don't need more development guys. We have twice as many as we will be able to keep next year when guys get healthy. Building through the draft is an excuse for we aren't trying to win. All avenues of bringing in talent should be explored including signing a big name FA. I'm not saying go after every big name FA but you can't completely shut the door on it because they will cost money to bring in....oh...wait...forgot the mantra. Ralph is cheap. Ralph is cheap.

Dude. COME ON MAN!!!! I LOVE Steve Smith but over Megatron? Really? Really?

Because they have great offensive lines and 2 of 3 maybe 4 elite QBs in the league. All we need to do is upgrade our line. Which we would have to spend money on and identify with 100% certainty a QB who is capable of putting up 35+ TDs every year....OH....and get 2 #1 WRs to throw the ball to in addition to SJ. Easy as pie!!!! Or, we could just build a dominant defense which doesn't require a once every 5 year type special QB talent P.S. Just because I think it is so funny. This board was all in an uproar about they will stop being fans if we somehow draft Cam Newton. ...LOL....Well...lookie lookie ...Cam might just be 1 of those elite QBs that comes along every 5 - 10 years. This illustrates how difficult it is to find an elite QB and how futile a forget everything until we find the needle in the hay stack philosophy is. What do we do? Draft a QB in the first round every year until hopefully in 20 or 30 years we get an Aaron Rogers or Tom Brady?

First round MAYBE....ahead of Orakpo? HELL NO!!!! Jauron and the front office should have been fired on that alone.

So all he did for the year was have more sacks and more forced fumbles than ANY BUFFALO BILL DEFENDER? Ya, man does he suck! We should be glad we got rid of him.

A WR certainly wouldn't be a bad idea but then you'll get everyone chanting "luxury pick" because they will be worried their pet WR SJ might not get all the attention. Fitz needs weapons to be sure at WR. In particular ones that can stay healthy. This is another pipe dream but there should be a few WR in free agency that would nicely fit the bill for us. We need the defense fixed and we need it fixed FAST. Despite the deluded dreamings of some, Merriman hasn't been productive in 5 years since injuries and getting off the juice. On top of that he is coming back from off season surgery now. At best he could be a rotational guy. We need a pass rusher(s) in the worst way. Not a platoon guy but a guy that is THE guy. We also need LBs and or a nickel back that can cover TEs and slot WRs which are coincidentally New England's strengths. That all being said a real NFL starting caliber LT would be the only thing I could possibly want over the top pass rushing DE or pass rushing LB with coverage skills. LT is a huge need still in my mind because I am tired of projects and experiments at the position. It would have to be someone we thought could step right in and own the spot. If not DE/LB.

Regarding your list 1) Fix the line and then he won't have to throw so quickly 2) Fitz doesn't have a big arm so it is what it is. At best more time from the line will allow him to work on deep ball timing with his WRs. 3) I don't think it's a matter of dumping the ball off more. The offense is designed to make presnap reads, determine your best matchups and let it fly inside 2 seconds. I think the RBs just flat out need to be targeted more or considered favorable matchups in his head. 4) See issue one you brough up with the quick release. Looking more closely and boiling it down 2 or 3 of the issues could be greatly helped by more time in the pocket to throw. With some personal improvement from Fitz and upgrading the line I think those problems are largely solvable.

Get a clue man. It's a team sport. You can't look at the team falling apart around him due to injury and ignore it.

Projected for a year based on his last 5 games when he was the starter and getting the practice reps CJ would have around 1400 yards on the ground, about 800 yards receiving and about 15 total TDs. And that is if he doesn't continue to improve as he has done with more playing time. Ya, the kid is a bust! He sucks! Imagine if he was running behind Eric Woods and a healthy offensive line with some real WR's not the guys we patched together for the second half of the season. I was glad we drafted him and I am glad he got a chance to show what he can do even though it was only due to injury. Now maybe all the idiots that claimed he was a bust before he got a chance can shut up now.

SJ was an idiot for that! If a coach makes a statement with a clear penalty for bad behavior and you do anything close to that he has to follow through or he is not doing his job as a coach, a leader and a MAN! He didn't draw a flag for the other stunt with the undershirt so he thought this one wouldn't either but dumb. Just dumb.

Everyone should have a chance but I am tired of "projects" at LT. You're probably right. Bell and Hairston will be retained and they will probably go with the hot or "healthy" hand week to week. Good teams have slam dunk starter at LT. I'm not saying a probowler but a guy that they know is THE guy.

I hear ya and pretty much agree with every point you've made. They have made strides but an above average line opens up the play book for routes that take more time than Fitz currently has to work with. I would say the line run blocks better than it pass blocks but a very good line turns Freddie and CJ into the 1 - 2 death punch that should be the focus of this team. We would be capable of grinding it out at the end of games and when the weather isn't conducive to the passing game. This of course helps keep the defense fresh. When that is rolling and with another 1/2 second plus of reliable time in the pocket our offense would be deadly.

Yes. As stated repeatedly it's both but the question is which factors are more important than others. Some believe that it is the line that is "pretty good" and the scheme, QB and RBs are lesser contributing factors. Some feel that the line does need some significant upgrades and that the scheme, QB and RBs are much more significant factors. Many including myself believe that we need much more than "depth". We need starters. Nobodies' jobs but Wood and Levitre should be guaranteed. Anyone else could be easily be upgraded if the right FA or draft pick is available. Do we have some guys that are good enough? SURE! Can we do better? Absolutely!

I like Chan as a coach and what he is trying to do but I do think that he passes too frequently. At the start of the year it wasn't too bad because we had healthy WRs. Once they started dropping like flies and we were starting a wild cat QB as our #2 WR you have to run the ball. Apparently Spiller isn't the bust that the whiners that proclaimed him without seeing him in extended action. Basically we had one WR a great starting RB and apparently a pretty good back up RB that is improving every week. Why wouldn't you modify your play calling to make use of the 3 actual weapons you had on the team? Instead we stuck with Freddy and ran him into the ground. We let CJ rot on the bench and had Fitz trying to throw the ball to a bunch of guys who were bagging groceries when the season started.

Thanks for the link. Some very telling info in there for the crowd that sees the offenses statistical successes in the sack and rushing stat columns as being more a factor of our system, QB and RBs. I won't go so far as to say the offensive line sucks but we need better players. Hopefully the stubborn Bell experiment at LT is over but I fear that Hairiston is going to be the next experiment. Good teams don't take a few years per to experiment at the very important LT position with UFAs and 4th round picks. Pears at RT also worries me due to his drive killing holding and false start penalties. To make this line a strength at the very least we need a slam dunk plug in starter at LT and someone to challenge Pears at RT and drive him to get a good deal better or take his job.