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We weren't keeping Marshawn. I didn't want to believe it myself and thought we would be stupid to get rid of him but I was wrong. One of the popular phrases of the era is "it's a passing league". Also popular is the "2 back system". We have have 2 great ones. One just starting his career and one closer to the end. I don't quite understand this debate as I am REALLY glad we have them both. Now Gailey just needs to find each of them enough touches for the sake of the team not for their individual egos.

Guys with Hill's measureables come along very rarely. Buddy was at GT's proday. They discussed Hill and Floyd at yesterdays presser and it was said that they think Hill can run the route tree but he wasn't in a system that allowed those talents to be displayed. He is a solid character guy who would seem to fit all of our needs with the exception of experience. That being said I don't think he will be the pick at #10. Would I be pissed? Not really but we could definitely make a pick with more "certainty". We could go for what we hope is a base hit double or we could swing for the fences. Maybe we fly out. Maybe we knock it out of the park. As I have said I really want this guy on our team but I think the only way we get him is a trade down in the first to the middle or late teens or we try to jump back into the first using some of our extra picks to move back up. Hill making it out of the 20's is a fantasy much less the 2nd round. If he won't make it out of the 20's or teens which I think 90% would agree with, is it really a stretch to take him at #10 if the front office has a strong feeling that this is the guy? I doubt it happens but I do feel that it is an option especially if Blackmon and Floyd are gone by #10 and we really want a WR.

Riiiight. What I am doing is giving you a forum to explain how this whole thread is useless by educating me to how mathematical coincidence explains this all away. I'm not a statistics or math major. I don't want to guess or infer what your point is which is why I asked you to enlighten me. So, here is your chance to explain your stated opinion. Remember, if you can't explain something simply, you probably don't understand it that well. The fact that you dodged the question in the way you did makes it seem very suspicious.

BB Staff members talking about Hill and Floyd. http://www.buffalobills.com/media-center/videos/Whaley-and-Cook-on-WR-depth-Floyd-and-Hill/45d1470f-67ea-41f7-aa6c-415c2cff5ef5

So enlighten us oh wise one. How does mathematical coincidence explain an incredible statistic improbability if this coincidence is based on chance?

I've done it previous years and stopped because I saw the same type of pattern and it just made me angry.

Part of that history is us almost always playing the Pats after their bye week

This is my point. This tendency to always play the Pats after their bye week is not random it is premeditated. The benefit to the Pats is that they get to play a division rival almost every year after 2 weeks to prepare and rest. The cost to us is that we have had to play a division rival and division leader almost every year for the last 8. It's tough enough to take away a game from a division leading rival and much tougher after they have 2 weeks to rest and prepare. Teams don't get rusty middle of the season with an additional week of rest playing at home. It's pretty simple in my eyes.

4 out of the last 5 years and 6 of the last 8 I think. I would say that defies the statistical chance of it being just a "coincidence". If it were relatively random we should get the Pats after OUR bye week 50% of the time when it does happen. This also defies incredibly that statistical possibility. The reality of the situation makes it HIGHLY "suspicious" in my opinion.

Boning us over of course!

THIS IS THE PROBLEM WHEN THREADS GET MERGED! About 5 - 6 pages of this 8 page thread were regarding "How do we get Stephen Hill?" not "He will be the pick at #10". Hill WILL go in the 1st there is no doubt. #10 would be early and it would be based on speculation about his potential as well as his SICK measureables. If we move around in the draft it's possible that we might end up getting him. Picking Kendall Wright at #10 would be something that Al would do because he is undersized and plays fast!

Uh ....YES! Seriously it feels like every year they have 2 weeks to rest and prepare for us. This is what it is to be a Bills fan to have that perception and persecution complex. You're not paranoid if they really are out to get you!

It's a good sign but it's based only on last years schedule. If you have been a fan of football for any length of time you know some teams get better and some teams get worse. Injuries, free agency, breakout players, etc. Your own expectations of our team speaks volumes. Based on our 6-10 record last year we look like an easy out but we all feel we have made some significant improvements and we haven't even reached the draft yet. I think you have to have a little more patience than to expect a 180 next year solely based on strength of schedule which is based on last year's record. Personally I do fully expect us to make the play offs as I did last year IF WE STAY HEALTHY! When we were firing on all cylinders we looked like a play off team. Once the injuries started piling up and hit deep at positions like WR and CB, we fell off. Take a look sometime if you can find the "strength of schedule" for previous years and see how that compared to end of season record. Strength of schedule before a single game has been played is not meaningless but it is sometimes far from accurate.

ARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH How does my month old 5 page thread on "How do we get Stephen Hill?" get merged and replaced by a 2 page thread on "Stephen Hill WILL be the pick at #10" that hasn't been posted to in forever? Apparently we can have 10 different threads addressing the minutia of why somebody thinks Fitz sucks but these 2 separate threads, mine being the longest (*grin*) gets merged because it is a related topic? *sigh*. I guess someone wanted this thread dead as you have to search through your own previous posts to find out where it went. Maybe I am on to something!!!!

Thomas went 22 over all in the first round in the 2010 draft. I have no reason to think that Hill won't go around or before then. The "experts" would tend to agree with me.