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anyone play madden mobile? it's one of the best ports I've played. I kind of quit console madden I got so consumed by the mobile version. to rootabaga's point though it is interesting to see the different dynamics. I had never thought to try ahead of time but I always jumped on right after the draft. Howard is interesting as the 2 te sets would offer versatility but his lack of college production makes me nervous.

lamb chops are phenomenal. 2 parts lemon pepper 1 part salt. you won't need another recipe

Wilson intrigues me as a zone corner. just 2 names I've come across and liked what I've seen. I definitely don't put the work in you guys do though. thanks for the info!

since you guys are talking dbs... what are thoughts on quincy wilson? how about Marlon humphrey?

I love the standing buffalo too!

man I love them. my current jersey is a color rush shady. the all red looks awesome!

I agree with that. however if their guy gets taken in the top 10 I'd rather they trade down than reach for their #2 qb. this is more a thought exercise with ideas of who might be willing to trade up and what it would net the Bills.

glad I read further down as this is how I feel too. value and need line up quite well for the Bills even if they trade down. although I could see first pick being a safety if one of the top guys is there.

That's why I posted at the end of the day Friday. Killing the last of my clock! I wouldn't be mad with a qb if they have extra picks. As it stands now there are much bigger holes than QB imo (I'm a known TT supporter ) and I forgot about the hole at LB. I absolutely don't see Poyer as a starter and hope the Bills don't either. I agree with your stance on Hyde though. Thanks! If this was the draft I would run for Adams! lol. Do you think it would be better to have both groups run out? I think having a couple of each left would force teams to move up and get their guy. I definitely think NO goes defense and wouldn't be surprised to see it be a d-lineman. Sure it would but I don't know about any of these guys. Watson is my favorite but that arm strength scares me.

I think 15 is the sweet spot for players that would fit a need and gain us enough picks to make it worthwhile. Like I said some of the guys we would be happy with at 10 should still be there. We would have 3 picks in the top 46 which would allow the Bills to go WR, CB, S and address the 3 biggest holes (imo) with potential impact players. Further down 20 or so is where next year's firsts come in to play. If the long term strategy is 2018 for a QB that would be huge in allowing the Bills to move up next year. 25 is the absolute lowest I would go from 10 and that would require next years first for me. edit: and thanks

I'll look at the store for what the low abv sour was and let you know.

I know a popular idea is always to trade down. I also know the popular rebuttal is that you need a partner. I did some digging to see what teams drafting behind us need and what it would gain the Bills in return. I'm going to use the draft trade chart (even if it is a bit out of date) to make it work as best as possible. 11. Saints - right behind us, I just don't see a scenario for them to give up anything to move up a spot. 12. Browns - they have a ton of draft capital. In my mind a team would trade up because they are worried a team will grab what they want. Here the Browns would have to want defensive help to move in front of the Saints as that is where I see the Saints going. I don't think this fits the philosophy the Browns are using and I wouldn't be surprised to see Browns go best available QB. Keep that in mind. 13. Cardinals - I could see them interested in moving up. If they want their choice of QB before the Browns the Bills and Saints would be options. If Foster is sitting there I think they could try to jump ahead of the Saints who could use him. Making the trade is a bit difficult but it would look something like Buffalo gives 10, 156 (5th), and 171 (5th) for Arizona's 13 and 77. While this trade would give the Bills 4 picks in the top 77 It would lower their picks from 6 to 5. 14. Eagles - If a Jonathan Allen, Solomon Thomas, or Leonard Fournette are at 10 I could see the Eagles interested. Before FA I thought this pick was WR for sure but the Eagles made some serious moves to help their young QB (wish whaley could have done more but different topic). Philly still could take a WR with Alshon on a 1 year deal or a CB. That would make me nervous to trade with them. However a trade would look like 10 and 171 for 14 and 74. This is right in the sweet spot of improving later picks while maintaining the same amount. 15. Colts - help on the line. I think a Jonathan Allen or Solomon Thomas again could help make a move happen. Especially since I could see all 4 teams between us snapping up dl in front of them. This trade would look like 10 and 171 for 15, 46, and 158. Now we are starting to see a wide enough gap to get an extra 2nd! There are more partners as you go down the list but 15 is right around where you see a huge benefit of getting to. Down this deep though teams have to give up a lot to move up. 16. Ravens - don't remember a trade up since Flacco so I'll skip them. 17. Redskins - No GM I would be surprised to see trading around 18. Titans - If the 2 top WRs are on the board I could see them trying to get up higher than Cleveland/Philly. I don't particularly like the idea of trading with a team that will likely take a guy you like but going this far down it could just as easily be another team... They don't have a second so you would move down 8 spots in the first and get a bunch of late picks. Not a move I'd like. 19. Tampa Bay - Solomon Thomas or Jonathan Allen again. I hope this drives home the point of d-lineman being a need in these groups and why people might want to come up. However they also could use a S so if Hooker or Adams are there (I would hope the Bills would just take them) they likely wouldn't be after this pick. give 10, 75 get 19, 50, 84, 125, 162. TB would really have to like a player to mortgage almost their entire draft. Bills would have 19, 44, 50, 84, 125, 156, 162, 171, and 195. That is a lot of picks! I think this is the range where teams may be willing to part with a first next year instead of giving up a ton of their draft capital this year. 20. Broncos - Could go D-line or O-line. I think they stay put. Not big enough needs and no top o-line talent to make them move. 21. Lions - Talk to their fans. They NEED a LB. I could see Foster being eye candy for them. give 10, 171, and 195 get 21, 53, 85. 5 picks in the top 85 would be a nice boost to the Bills. 22. Miami - Trade in the division? Nah 23. NYG - O-line, maybe QB to groom I would expect them to stay put as that is the range they can grab either of those. 24. Oak - another d-line team. Possibly a CB. It would take Oaklands first 5 picks just to get enough for #10. The Raiders of old maybe. Reggie's Raiders? I don't see it. 25. Houston - QB I could see them trying to get in front of Cleveland's 2nd pick to grab their QB and I would make them pay for it. At this point a first next year would have to be on the table. They already gave up their 2nd next year so I don't know if they would be willing to do that. For a team on the cusp though it may be possible to get them to push all of their chips in. I don't think any of the rest of the teams would be moving up. 25 is about as low as the Bills could go and I think 15 might be as low as I would go. C Davis, M Williams, any of the QBs, Peppers ( ), Howard could all still be sitting there. Thoughts?

Umm she has a serious drug problem. Look at those eyes.

Victory is a 12. I'm gonna pick some up on the way home tonight. What is total wine? I'm not familiar with it. The places that sell craft beer do the same but generally I don't find sours in the selections. Probably because as you said a lot are in 750ml bottles. A friend of mine despises them and says they taste too much like wine. I see what he is talking about but I just find them delicious. Sold. I bought a 4 pack once of a sour and didn't check it was 3% abv!!! I felt like such an idiot. Separately I would be remiss to not at least mention Fat Tire by New Belgium. It is my favorite "regular" beer by far. It is an Amber Ale. I'm not a hops guy at all so IPAs and others are generally not highly rated by me. If you haven't tried it find it. You'll be glad you did.

I would grab him in the 3rd of he is still there.

Is this any good? I'm a huge sour fan but after a few bad ones and getting weary of spending the money without knowing what I'm getting myself into. I know it's a Bills site but the one Buffalo beer that was put out by Southern Tier is really good. Most of the Southern Tiers I have tried have been good. The Cherry Gose (a sour) was just alright though. I know some people have wives with gluten allergies (as does mine) she can get away with drinking Corona Light. It was explained (I'm foggy sorry) that the gluten is so low it is basically gluten free. Since she only likes beer (ni wine or hard liquor) this was great news to her.

"It's always their decision whether they should go," Boeheim said. "You don't have to agree with it, but you do have to support that decision. I'll be very happy for him because he's a great kid." Boeheim said most college coaches believe that if a player is not bound for the NBA lottery, he should return to school if he's capable of reaching that coveted and lucrative spot in the draft. "I know he can be," Boeheim said, "and that's what I told him. I think that's a better way to go to the NBA and make more money. They draft you high, they play you. Half the picks between 20 and 30 are out of the league within three years. But again, it comes down to what he thinks, what he wants to do. I'm just grateful he's given us the two years he's given us. He's been a huge part of our team." Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim said he spoke with Orange sophomore Tyler Lydon at 1 p.m. Monday. At that point, Boeheim said, Lydon had not signed with an agent, which would end his college eligibility. http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2017/03/jim_boeheim_spoke_today_withtyler_lydon_who_said_he_hadnt_signed_with_agent.html

I'm out of this convo. He didn't handle himself right. I won't argue that. I just can't get on board with him not being able to move on with his life. I'm not on board with this incident meaning he can't play professional football.

I saw that he was going to but as of today he hasn't

He was 17. I get where you're coming from but I don't agree at all. If a woman throws a punch nothing is off the table. How many times does she get to hit him before he can defend himself? For me it is 1 time. If he threw the first punch i'd be right there with you except calling it about equal to child molestation. There is no crime worse imo. The victim must suffer the consequence every single day for the rest of their life. They don't put themselves in situations to be molested like this woman did. She threw a punch and got punched. She doesn't want him to hit her she shouldn't hit him. Women can be in the wrong too... Before you ask, yes I have a daughter. I would be pissed if someone hit her like Mixon did but I would fully admit that she brought it on herself (if she were stupid enough to conduct herself in the same manner as this woman) Yup. If Rice's last year was good he would have been able to come back. Greg Hardy played for the Cowboys AFTER his incidents. Shoot Rice only got 2 games until the video came out. Yeah I think both are dumb but both are employable. Even if the Bills wanted Kaep he wouldn't come here. He singled out Buffalo as the place that was the worst to him.

Forgot all about about Grant. Man so much talent missed with these guys leaving early for the check! I hope Lydon comes back but won't hold my breath. At least he hasn't signed with an Agent yet.

Yeah I wouldn't bet on that if I were you... My favorite quote from the combine "If they thought Hannibal Lecter could help them they would say he had an eating disorder" Mixon put up measureables in line with the best of the class. He might get pushed down but I would be surprised if he makes it out of the 3rd.

Stop it. That video where she hit him first? I'm not excusing his actions as he shouldn't have done it but let's not make it out to be on the same level as Child Molestation. I expected the video to be much much worse with all of the build up. Mixon won't be on the Bills because the need isn't there but I think somebody will be getting a good player in the late second early 3rd.

Well at least 1 of them made the right decision as Battle will be returning! http://www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2017/03/tyus_battle_definitely_returning_to_syracuse_basketball_next_season.html I get the idea but I just disagree. With the wage scale in the NBA players don't get paid until their 2nd and 3rd contracts (if they get there) and they are percentage increases. It behooves all of these guys to go as high as possible in the draft. Lydon right now is hoping to go at the end of the first. If he stayed and went were Kamisky went (I know white on white comp but I think it fits well - Kamisky was better than Lydon is right now) he would make much more money. Here is a good link for more info If someone gets picked 11th they make 6.4 in the first 3 years. 21st like Malachi is only 4 million. Never mind if they drop out of the first which Lydon certainly could do and then there is no guaranteed money. Making 5 million is cool but shortsighted. Players have to be looking at earning that second contract. That takes players from rich to set for life. I'm not upset and I get the idea of leaving if you know you can I just don't think it is smart. Dion Waiters, Melo, Wes Johnson, MCW, even Jonny Flynn made the right call because they were lottery picks. This is where I agree with your point even if I think Waiters and Flynn could have made themselves better by staying. Donte Greene, Paul Harris, Devendorf, Ennis, Richardson (especially him - best of this bunch imo and probably a top 10 pick this year), Chris McCullough (you forget about him? I did lol) all should have continued playing college ball.

Reminded of the Tay experiment run by Microsoft. It took less than 24 hours for Twitter to corrupt an innocent AI chatbot.