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I admittedly don't watch a ton of college football but make it a point to catch big games or games involving big time prospects. Every time I watch Mayfield I come away impressed. He slides well in the pocket and finds throwing lanes and I too like the fiery attitude. Long way to go until the draft but at this point I would be very happy with him as the qb. He doesn't strike me as a McDermott kind of guy though so it probably won't be him as frustrating as that may be.

I do see the difference between the 2. I just think the move in general was a dumb one. I think the coach threw in the towel on a very winnable game starting his precious 5th round rookie. Bringing in a 5th round rookie was supposed to spark the offense? Come on thats ridiculous. Peterman being brought in was a desperation move to show that Dennison's scheme can be successful and that the offense sucking has been all Tyrod's fault. Before yesterday many people bought that. Now that Peterman played worse than Tyrod ever even came close to playing it has changed to how bad the rest of the team is. The team has been bad. The Saints game wasn't solely on Tyrod even though he was also bad. We saw yesterday that Tyrod is light years ahead of Peterman. Do you really think it looks that much different in practice to spark that move? Nobody is so sure Tyrod would have won yesterday. It isn't about that. Tyrod would have played better than Peterman and that I CAN guarantee. You opine about the Chargers finding ways to lose close games but oh they aren't that bad. Peterman made it so the game never had a chance to be close. Chargers aren't terrible that I will agree with but who do you think is a tougher game? 3-6 Chargers in a half filled with Bills fans stadium that holds less than half of New Era or a team that blew out New England playing in one of the toughest places to play in the league. Back to my original post to you it's the mental gymnastics that are driving me crazy. Even before the game there was a what if Peterman plays bad thread filled with excuses BEFORE he even took a snap. Now that it is likely Tyrod will be back in we should beat the Chiefs . It's still the same crappy team this week as it was last week. The only way they win is if the defense finally shows up. What do people always say to bash Tyrod? He won't win you the game but he won't lose it for you either? Peterman lost that game for the Bills yesterday. It is okay to think Tyrod sucks AND to think that Peterman sucks. I don't mind that at all. Tyrod not being good enough for anyone is fine with me. Anyone pretending Peterman is or should be excused in any way for yesterday isn't. He was historically bad and deserves to head back to the bench for good.

This is the double talk that is driving me crazy. If Tyrod is good he should have no problem at Arrowhead. However there is no way you could put Peterman in such a difficult situation. They probably aren't beating SD regardless of who is starting? So Tyrod couldn't beat a 3-6 team but should have no problem beating a 6-4 team? This is the only time it could be done? Why? If he played even halfway decent he would be starting against KC and NE in starts 2 and 3. Is that really any different? The gymnastics to defend this decision are incredible. Peterman should have been put in if it had to be done when the season was completely over. Not when the team is 5-4 and the 6 seed. Regardless of how people feel about the playoff hopes the reality is they were (and unbelievably still are) there for the taking. I agree with the last sentence of your post though. At any time they can turn it around this is after all the NFL. I don't think any of us are expecting it but it could certainly happen. The Bills are going to have to, as a team, decide if they want to quit or fight. That's from the HC on down.

I'm not mocking anyone. I posted in the what if Peterman plays bad the following: I'll be sad because It will mean the playoff hopes are all but dead It will bring more scrutiny on the coaches and make me question there ability to steer this team in the right direction and their decision making I will have to come on here and not only read about a Bills loss but see the same people who crushed TT defend everything great white hope Peterman. This is exactly how I feel today. I don't feel great about the coaching staff, playoff drought for another year, people defending Peterman after crushing Tyrod for "the throws he doesn't make" while excusing Peterman for the throws he did make. No part of me is happy Peterman stunk. I'm actually angry and I hate when the Bills control my emotions enough to do that lol. Idiotic move by the coaching staff. TT can not be the answer and still deserve to start over Peterman. Peterman should be cut. Put the shoe on the other foot and ask yoursellf what would the response be here today if TT had thrown 5 picks. so disconnected from reality. I'm pissed they made the move and I'm pissed they blew another season. No part of me is happy.

They didn't just go all in on drafting them they then set them up for success. Both teams invested heavily in receivers and o-line. Just this off season the Rams brought in Kupp, Woods, and Watkins as well as whitworth. The Eagles brought in Ajayi, Alshon Jefferey, etc... They set their young guys up for success. The Bills are not currently set up for a qb to be succesful especially if Dennison stays. Draft one early and then get him some help!

Denver averaged 27 more yards per game and 2.5 less points per game. Glad to see a team being proactive when something isn't working. Dennison needs to go. I'm not even going to say that they should hire McCoy but they certainly need to move on from Dennison especially if there is any truth to him being the one to push Peterman starting.

Stop excusing his terrible play! Dont tell me those ints werent his fault. If we are going to play the not his fault game with ints then Tyrod only has 1 on the year. Last week and week 1 against the jets were tipped in the air by clay. Don't tell me about how it wasn't his fault the pressure was in his face all dag forcing him into errors if you stated the 7 sacks in the jets game were Tyrods fault. Maybe as some has proposed Tyrods escapability is a very important factor in making the oline look much better than it is. Don't tell me facing the 3-6 chargers is the same as the 8-2 saints. One is the hottest team in football and the other is still 2 games under 500 Don't tell me they needed to see what they had. He's a 5th round pick. A 5th rounder. Most of the people drafted in his round won't ever start a game let alone a game with playoff implications. Especially at qb. They should know from practice what they have. Don't tell me well Tyrod sucks too so they would have lost anyway. He doesn't and you were just shown what an actual backup qb looks like. I won't guarantee a win but I will guarantee Tyrod wouldn't have put forth 5 ints in a half. Don't tell me Dennison had a poor gameplan and that isn't Peterman fault. He's had bad gameplan most of the year. Seriously that was some of the worst qb play I don't know how anyone can defend that play or pretend like he deserves a second chance. The Bills don't have to skip the playoffs just bc they won't win the super bowl. 3 bad weeks and they are still in the driver seat. They owe it to Kyle, the fans, every player on that team to try and win. Tyrod offers the best chance for that. Peterman should just be cut. Next year they can draft their qb of the future and let him actually beat out Tyrod not be gifted the starting position bc he fits the idiotic ocs mental picture of what a qb should be.

Peterman doesn't need to be benched he needs to be cut

Remember when you said the pass game was the reason the chargers gave up the rushing td?

It depends. Is the question who threw more picks in 1 half of one game then the Bills had all year your right. If the question is who is the best qb on the roster your wrong.

Every snap Peterman takes moves me further and further from supporting this regime. He needs to be benched. This isn't just an eff you to the fans it's one to the players as well. Thanks for coming back kyle...

When is enough?

So if Peterman doesn't need to hit the bench yet where is the line? 4 picks? 5?

The td drive was 2 shady runs Peterman had nothing to do with that

Were they magically better when Tyrod was behind center?

Watching people do mental gymnastics to defend the great white hope is almost as bad as watching this game. As much as you may hate Tyrod he deserves to be in this game right now. If you disagree ask yourself what you would be saying if Tyrod had 3 picks in the first quarter 1 going for 6.

Can we bench this dude yet? Jfc

What passing attack are you serious? That entire drive was all shady!

Saints got cocky after destroying the Bills last week and started to believe the press. Didn't come ready to play today and you can't do that in the NFL. A lot of teams could improve with him. My dark horse is back with the Ravens. If flacco sucks next year they can replace him with TT.

Eli should have taken the sack there to run clock or force kc to use their final timeout

Eli Manning has 107 passing yards after am 8 yard pass put him over 100 with 10 minutes to go in the 4th. Wonder if her gets benched next week

Chiefs haven't looked good as of late.

obvious answer is us fans. You almost have to go out of your way to be as inept as the Bills have been. Or cheap out on coaches, scouts, etc... Fun answer: Thurman Thomas - he should have been the MVP of SB 25 but Jim Kelly's ego wouldn't let that happen. The Bills should have won that game going away running the ball down the Giants throats. Mariota is part of a list that includes Eli, Flacco, Jameis Winston, and Carson Palmer that Tyrod was outplaying. I don't think those teams did as much to sabotage their qb as the Bills did getting rid of his top 3 receivers, competent #2 rb, and hiring a coach that wants to force a system on a player instead of fitting the system to the player either but I digress.

I'll be sad because It will mean the playoff hopes are all but dead It will bring more scrutiny on the coaches and make me question there ability to steer this team in the right direction and their decision making I will have to come on here and not only read about a Bills loss but see the same people who crushed TT defend everything great white hope Peterman. Here's to hoping this hypothetical stays hypothetical and he comes out and plays well! We Bills fans are a funny bunch. At 5-4 in the drivers seat for playoffs in the first time in forever and the thread is created not positively but negatively. We are a beaten and battered bunch. Here's to Nate being great!

I wanted to do some digging to see how successful Dennison had been. Here is what I found: Denver: 2006 21st in yards, 17th in points 2007 11th in yards, 21st in points 2008 2nd in yards, 16th in points Houston: 2010 3rd in yards, 9th in points 2011 13th in yards, 10th in points 2012 7th in yards, 8th in points 2013 11th in yards, 31st in points Ravens 2015 14th in yards, 25th in points 2016 17th in yards, 21st in points That breaks down to 2 out of 9 years fielding top 10 offense by yards and points, finishing top 5 in a category once out of 18 opportunities, and finishing top 10 in a category 6 out of 18 opportunities. I don't see this success other than 2010 and 2012. To make his resume that much more impressive after 2008 he was demoted by the Broncos to offensive line coach. After 2013 he was hired by the Ravens as a quarterbacks coach. Currently Buffalo sits at 28th in yards and 20th in points. Last year they finished at 16th in yards and 10th in points. I dug into this hoping to prove myself wrong and I ended up feeling worse about him lol.