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I kind of get it that people really expected more major characters to die but then who moves the last 3 episodes story line? There is still 3+ hours to this story. That is why GOT is so mind blowing to me. These are basically movies we get to watch each week and there is still quite a bit left to play out. Jorah had a perfect death as did Lyanna Mormont imo. Very fitting to their characters. Theon's was a bit odd to me though. Did he really think he could charge 100+ yards at the NK? Or was he just happy dying there? It would have been hilarious if he just turned tail and ran a la Yara's capture

I know it is dumb but Sansa having red hair just clicked last night as Scottish since this is loosely based on England. I thought she would end on the throne but episode 2 when she was so adamant about the north having independence led me to believe she is happy staying right in winterfell. I wonder about even farther north now though. It has to be completely uninhabited all the way down to winterfell now right? Wildlings are all either dead or at Winterfell. Night's watch doesn't exist anymore. Umbers were destroyed as were the Mormonts. Who is left in the North to rule over? lol

Thanks I actually thought they were Brown. Might be time to get my own eyes checked! I still think Sansa ends up on the throne but now I am wondering if the North gets its independence (Scotland) and Sansa rules it likely with Tyrion as that couple seems to work. Agreed. I also think people are forgetting that there is an entire other battle remaining to be fought. There is still plenty of time for main characters to die.

One last question. I know @SDS talked about green eyes possibly being Cersei but what color eyes did Little Finger have? I looked at pictures but couldn't tell. Wasn't an arrow to the eye what finally finished him off when he was alive? I thought that is why he only had 1 eye? Just checked and it was indeed the kill shot from Ramsay Bolton. He should have shot at Jon lol

Gonna address the bolded sections here: 1. Winter is coming is not about them. It is the Stark's family words. Maybe in a round about way those words are a warning of sorts but they have more to do with the Starks than they do the WW. 2. I thought more main characters would die but Jorrah and Theon are both main characters that have been in all 8 seasons. Melisande and Beric served there purpose. Brienne wouldn't have been emotional as everyone expected her to die imo. Sam will be alive at the end to write this story (also imo). 3 This was explained last episode. The NK wants to erase humanity and Bran is the memory. 4. Just a theory here but one I liked... Bran was in the past making sure all events had lined up correctly to have this moment come as he envisioned it. Rewatch the kill scene. Bran and NK are locked in a stare, Bran looks over NK shoulder (checking for Arya imo), NK looks confused, realizes, turns and catches Arya. I'm in the camp that Bran knew how this would play out but would endager it if he spoke of it. Episode 1 I got the feeling that he was plotting/planning with all his creepy snaeking around. That said, I think any pay off was going to be a let down. This season alone has been built up for 2 years and people have had that long to come to their own conclusions. I didn't like how dark the episode was but I get it. I really didn't like the dragons flying around in the clouds. There was some bad cgi last night and a decent amount of time wasted (it felt). I enjoyed last night for a few reasons. First the call back from Melisande with the quote of closing blue eyes. The dagger as others have stated, starting the war of the 5 kings and ending the great war, the moment Jon charged the NK and he turned around to just raise the dead almost saying I don't care about you, Lady Mormont taking out the giant, Hound freezing yet again and coming to for Arya, the tension in the crypts (I thought we had a double suicide brewing), and more. I'm excited to see the rest of this play out!

DK was already gone. He went the last pick of the 2nd round. Maybe the Bills would have taken him in the 3rd too. RB shouldn't even be in the conversation since he was taken 10 picks later...

Its espn insider but before it cuts off you can see it. I'll see if I can find the whole blurb. http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2018/insider/story/_/id/23377324/nfl-mock-draft-todd-mcshay-way-too-early-first-round-picks-2019

Last year mcshay did one and had the Bills with the #1 pick and taking ed oliver!

Dammit I thought there was a chance of my dream oliver/harry draft. Sad to see him go to the pats* but for him there isn't a better place to land as a wr. They got a good one there.

I didn't post in the giants thread...

Somehow many people have understood the point of this thread but not you. I'm out buddy. Enjoy the draft. Go Bills!

@Bangarang here you go. Maybe someone else's words will help you understand.

I advised against the bolded... "Except I can guarantee tonight there will be many people that mock the pick, explode because they don't like the pick, etc. Don't be that guy. Don't be an embarrassment to our fan base. Welcome the player as he achieves his life long dream. Don't be Eagles fans booing McNabb and don't be a wrongjosh poster. Be excited. Today is Christmas morning and the Bills get to add young talent to an already exciting young core." The rest is my opinion on the matter and what I will be doing. You do you. I apologize that this thread upsets you so much.

Yes please! Click on my name and then the envelope. Inside scoops are like crack to me this time of year!

From the post you quoted lol Those are my words but the quote section attributed it to you for some reason

I like both of those pieces of information!

because Blaine Gabbert is a punchable name

Dammit I should just edit down the op with this. Thank you for putting it so concisely!

I honestly did not expect a "hey be happy for the kid who just achieved his lifelong dream" thread to go so sideways!

Well at least some people got the point of the thread lol I'm not hiding it. I put it in this thread here. This is the part though that saves me. I have my opinions just like anyone else but I can be and am certainly wrong plenty. Shoot I was basically a founding member of the CoT! I understand that and think this place would be better if more people did.

I like Oliver. I like N'Keal Harry in the 2nd but he prob won't be there. There are plenty of players that make me uneasy like Gary and Sweat. If they get drafted I will hope like hell they are better than I think they will be. Again I am okay with people having opinions. I just want them to realize they are just that. Opinions. Whatdrought posted about Allen pre-draft here is what I wrote: Allen SCREAMS bust to me. In the same vain of who the hell is Blaine Gabbert? Remember him? Played at Missouri and had subpar stats but went in the 1st round. I don't THINK Allen will work out in the NFL. If he is drafted by the Bills I will hope like hell I am wrong. I've been wrong plenty of times before. I just won't be as excited as I will be if the pick is Rosen or Mayfield. Choosing Allen OVER Rosen as this thread suggests and I will be very disappointed. After he was drafted I didn't add anything to it. I didn't come here and rail against the stupid Bills and I'm glad because 1 year later I would look really foolish. Even when I disagree with a pick I understand that some young man's dream has just come true. Imagine getting drafted by the Bills and seeing that the fan base hates you before you even play a down. What are the chances you re-sign?

here is what I wrote: Except I can guarantee tonight there will be many people that mock the pick, explode because they don't like the pick, etc. Don't be that guy. Don't be an embarrassment to our fan base. Welcome the player as he achieves his life long dream. Don't be Eagles fans booing McNabb and don't be a wrongjosh poster. Be excited. Today is Christmas morning and the Bills get to add young talent to an already exciting young core. You don't have to like the pick. Just have actual reasons not to like the pick. Also understand that you could be wrong. There are several posters here that do a lot of work scouting these guys. There are also a lot of posters here who do no work but read 1 article and form a rock solid opinion. This place is for discussion and disagreement. A certain wrestling manager commentary is a perfect example of a poster who, no matter who is chosen, will speak about it as the dumbest pick ever with no reasoning.

You laugh but this exact scenario played out last year lol.

I'm all for opinions. I'm all for disagreement. This draft is cool for fans but a life changing moment for the players. For some reason though people think they know exactly how someone's career will turn out because they listened to Mel Kiper and watched a youtube video. You don't have to like the pick but the hyperbole that will be posted tonight will be ridiculous. We had a long time poster quit the board because they took the wrong Josh. We have a poster who's handle is wrong josh. Just a ***** way to be a fan imo.