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This is a running joke between us how awesome that you quoted it lol I was hoping you would weigh in as I knew you would have great insight! I'll run Cherry Pie by her and try to keep a straight face her response should be a good one

Interested to know the outcome of this post. What did you go with? I'm going the personal route myself and am going to buy each of them something a little different. *Jack feel free to merge if necessary but if you could leave my thread title it would be appreciated as I'd appreciate some help with song ideas

thanks for the link to the other forum discussion about it. 4 out of the 8 are Bills fans so I think I'm going to do a Bills gift for them unfortunately dhgate has no jerseys up that I could get customized. Anyone know any places similar to dhgate (read I don't care about authentic) that could help a brother out. As for the songs thanks... keep em coming! Noone wanted to touch the advice part huh?

I'm getting married in less than a month and thought what better place to seek some advice than the friendly confines of tbd. So I've got a few questions answer what you please. 1. What is a good gift for my groomsmen? I've got 7 plus my father. From previous weddings that most of us have been in humidors and flasks are ruled out. (Damn partying through my 20s and all the easy ideas got taken) 2. What was your wedding song (or ideas for one). We don't exactly have an "our song." I like metal, hard rock, and classic rock while she prefers hip-hop, pop, and country. It prob won't come from any of these genres and are leaning to older songs. Since there are many *ahem* experienced posters on here I was hoping you may know some obscure songs or just classics that we have missed. 3. (This should be good but what the heck) some advice for the newlyweds. I'm marrying her in the start of August because it is the most boring sports season (she knows this and is okay with it). She enjoys football season mostly because she gets to hang out with the other wives/girlfriends while we watch the game, and she is well aware that Sundays are off limits for anything. I've gotten her to become an UFC fan but still working on the other sports. She really is amazing, not bitchy/bossy at all (man I hope that doesn't change ) and someone who puts a smile on my face many times throughout the day. So any and all help (especially with question 1 and 2) would be much appreciated. Thanks tbd!

Yeah I gotta agree pantera has to be walk. People may not know the bad or who sings it but most people (that listen to metal) are familiar with the riff.

What a crock this is. A 34 year old man is acting like a b*tch. This story is so ridiculous added on to the fact that the article is trying to make it sound legitimate. Wow some people........………

ugh she's rich so if she paid me but she's 30 single and about to have her second kid? I guess i've done worse

No link to the video in the article?! Or is just bc I am on a mobile?

Murray and ferrer are playing an amazing match right now. Both sets went to tie breaks and it's 1-1. I'm rooting for Murray to at least make the finals and depending on who he would play maybe to win the whole thing.

I wonder if we'll ever find out her idenTITy was my favorite comment

Best post in this thread. and funniest post in this thread... got a chuckle from me. Well done 2 for 2! Pride is an interesting thing. It is necessary to accomplish equality for those that have not been given it. However too much of it and a backlash is caused. It is 1 of the 7 deadly sins and it is easy to see why. For those claiming that this isn't or shouldn't be an issue, I agree it shouldn't, but it is. Racism still exists and homophobia is even stronger. Witness the vote in NC a few months ago. I am proud of homosexual people that are proud of who they are and aren't scared to live their lives how they see fit. Should it be a news story? No, I don't think so, but this is the age where celebs can't move or breathe without tmz telling the owrld and this is just part of it. Lastly, his feelings that people thought he was ashamed of being gay is what prompted this. It wasn't him wanting to cause a stir it was him wanting to set the record straight (no pun intended ) and again, I can respect that.

I'm sure I'm forgetting a few but the highlights that stand out to me are: Crowd surfed my way to the front of Woodstock 99 and was in the first few rows for rage against the machine. Got Jim Kelly club seats randomly sold to me for 10 bucks apiece. Unfortunately it was the 6-3 browns game a few years back. My sisters company gives her court side tickets to Su basketball every year and she used to bring me. Front row pantages theater for phantom of the opera when I was a kid. Awesome awesome show.

everytime I see this thread I think of this.... one of my favorite movies of all time and one that still makes me laugh! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nro-xZ7GgA

Voyeurism at its best (worst?). I dont know a single female that doesn't love this show if they have seen it.... Unfortunately including my fiancée.

Watching with my nephews who are 6 and 3 and just got to America from Italy Friday. I wonder if I can hold my breath for 90 minutes lol.

Couldn't agree more. My father took swimming lessons in his fifties! He wanted to be able to swim with his grand kids and had to admit that he never had learned... Wasn't easy but loves the time he gets with his grand kids!

Yes he did go 11-5 one year in Cleveland. The other 4 he went a combined 25-39 and he finished in 5 years with a winnin percentage of .450 hardly what I would call good. I think beliechick is a great coach so I don't know where you came up with the idea I don't. (I even stated it in the post you referenced) As for the 11-5 without Brady and with cassell people often forget that was a team that had gone 18-1 the previous year. So he did have success but not nearly the level he had with Brady. Still a great coach but I think his sb appearances and wins say more about it than the 11-5 season do.

That's why I originally bumped this thread... I want to bet this bad!

Okay I'll eat some crow must be revisionist history on my part just looked up his playoff career and it isn't nearly what I thought. In Cowher’s 15 seasons, the Steelers captured eight division titles, earned ten postseason playoff berths, played in 21 playoff games, advanced to six AFC Championship games and made two Super Bowl appearances. He is one of only six coaches in NFL history to claim at least seven division titles.

I know we're bills fans but Marv is thought to be overrated by several of my friends (I disagree of course but am an admitted homer). 4 and 5 visits are nothing to sneeze at and that's why I think they are great coaches. 2 visits are good and I (as stated earlier) don't have issue with people saying that I just thought he could've done more with the talent he had. As to your next point I'll agree but they are a great organization from the top down. There owner is a model for all others, they draft extremely well, they have excellent coaches (lebeau being the ultimate example). Maybe my opinion of him would be different if he had big Ben longer which is where my original question came from. Tomlin is a great coach IMO and has accomplished as much if not more than Cowher in a much shorter time but had he benefit of big Ben.

He has a great record that I can't argue but it just felt like his teams underachieved. 1 super bowl and 2 trips with all of those excellent teams are a major red flag for me. The loss to the chargers in i believe 94 stands out to me. He's def in the upper tier and I have zero issue with others saying he's great. I just dont think it and am sure I'm in the minority there... Besides he coached Pittsburgh don't they all have good records? Haha (and more sb wins too)

I don't consider Cowher to be a great coach but a vastly over rated one... Much like Jeff fisher he benefited from longevity.

and people worry about hip-hop concerts lol

I agree strongly with #2 which is where this came from. Good example in Parcells. I feel that winning a super bowl doesn't make you a great coach per se (although it does help in the argument) and that coaches are more a victim of circumstance (who their qb is) more so than in most sports. I think that is why we rarely see coaches repeat their success. Not many can go to another team and have any type of success which leads me back to thinking that the qb position plays an inordinate amount in what their reputation is. what I mean (and others may interpret this differently) is that when you hear their name you think 'that is a great coach'. People's perception of that may be different but I definitely don't mean just because they won a super bowl.

I'm not talking about winning a super bowl though. I am more wondering what coaches are thought to be great. I don't think anyone thinks Gruden, Fassel, or Billick are great coaches. They certainly aren't on anyone's HOF list. Thinking more about it and I will say Ditka is the name that I can think of. His Bears won with D and he had Payton. I don't think anyone would say McMahon was a great qb. There is the Saint's debacle but I think most still consider him to be "great".