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Love that drive. How many times have teams gouged us sinking and dunking down the field in a 2 minute drill? Ej to woods looks to be an exciting pairing. Much much better preseason start than last year that's for sure! Birddog offer still stands buddy...

Pretty please birddog?

Damn you! :-)

C'mon it's my sucker bet I posted it first :-p

Care to make a wager?

There will be spoilers in this post so beware.... I had the others pegged as aliens from the start. When John hit the guy on the billboard and cracked open his skull it was my assumption. The great "twist" to me was 2 fold. When John and the detective broke through the wall to find out they were in outer space I did not see that coming! I thought that they were just in a city that the others were messing with. The second was me thinking the Dr. Would still be on the others side. I thought the injection he was trying to make John take at the spa was a trick. Turns out he was trying to help after all. I know that isn't necessarily a twist but it was to me bc of y expectations. I didn't hate it but I didn't love it either. Also I view you as very knowledgeable of movies in general and since both you and aj (his views of Star Wars vs. Matrix not withstanding :-p) recommending it I wanted to check it out. Thanks for recommending it!

Alright I got through dark city on my 4th try! I don't know if it was because te scenery was so dark, the guys kept saying "sleep" , or bc it just wasn't a very good movie but I struggled to make it through. I can see the analogy to the Matrix but I didn't really care for it. Took me 45 minutes to figure out what the hell was going on! The last 15 minutes were good but I need more. The Matrix on the other hand had me gripped from start to finish! Oh well different strokes for different folks I guess.

I was just kidding guys. Guys?

Stand your ground?

I've been a but absent in this thread and I apologize. Aj it boils down to you like Star Wars and not the matrix and there is nothing wrong with that. It is making you excuse a lot in stars wars that was bad and not allowing the same for the matrix again that is okay. Allow me if I may though to talk about Neo using his powers outside of the Matrix. He is an anomaly to the system. He is also the counterbalance to agent smith. Agent smith escapes the matrix which has never happened. It is a program living outside of the system which is exactly what Neo is. He is a program working outside of the system. Try to stop viewing Neo as a human being but as a host for the program that is the one. Much like the agents ability to transfer hosts. Neo is killed in the first movie. The program lives on through him. Also I would like to add that you allow Jedis to have magical and mystical powers but somehow won't allow your mid to accept Neo having them :-p I love stories of the bad guy and how they become that way. I looked forward to the Star Wars sequel and will grant that the Sith was an excellent movie. When he murdered the kids my jaw dropped. That said 1 and 2 were decidedly okay. So I get ajs view on the Matrix. I stand by my theory of the awesomeness of the first ruining 2 and 3 for some people. Holy crap I'm watching Revolutions right now and the Oracle explained his powers as extending beyond the Matrix and all the way to where it came from (machine city). In that same conversation to add to Levi's point she also states that Smith balances the equation while Neo unbalances it. Aj just watch the conversation that happens in the first half hour of revolutions between the Oracle and Neo. It answers many of the questions you have asked in ITT. Much better than my brain that is missing so many cells ;-)

I could see him as a late first depending on how many teams there are (not in order) 1 Peterson 2 Doug Martin 3 ray rice 4 Aaron Rodgers 5 Calvin Johnson 6 Arian foster Then spiller in a mix of lesean McCoy Jamal Charles etc... If it is a free league though have at it! Edit: (I'm kinda drunk right now so I know I'm leaving out people)

Tiger showed up so I don't think I can make it in time. I appreciate it though!

2... 1 for me and 1 for my sister were at the PGA right now so how do you want to meet?

Anyone have any extra tickets for tonight?

Guilty as charged but it happened by accident i swear lol. My sister through her job gets a lot of tickets for cuse games (both football and basketball). ive seen a bunch of this kid and like him. i was hoping that the Bills would have drafter him last year but hey better late than never. I really wouldn't be surprised though if they try to add him to the practice squad. I love this kid. Su ran a lot of 2 and 3 te sets in his senior year and he was the stud of the group. I'm just not sure how his game will translate to this uptempo team. I know I pushed for him hard. I recall a few others wanting him drafted as well.

I put something in the trading post but does anyone want to get rid of their tickets for this game? Looking to take 2 developmentally disabled adults to the game. Pm me please. Thanks!

I was very happy to wake up to this today... Here is what I posted a while ago on Provo: I was one of the people banging the drum to bring him in and I will do it again. He had 51 catches and 7 tds his senior year. Maybe a bit more than "remotely skilled." Yes he was from SU which allowed me to see him multiple times. Like the game I continually reference Geno's poor attitude in the dome. Provo went for 6 catches 61 yards and 3 tds. He was unguardable that day! Or how about him having at least 3 catches in every game that year except 1. Proving to be a reliable target. He was Nassib's safety valve. He isn't much of a burner which might hurt him on this team but he is very sure handed. Check out the game vs wvu (I posted the stats and can't find a good youtube video of the highlights) he was a 1 man wrecking crew. I watched it live and he was always open and making the catch. I'm very happy and very intrigued to see how it goes.

Just so I'm clear... The wr who has caught the most balls in nfl history over a 6 year span (Welker) isn't a #1?

Ill have to check out Dark City as I've never seen it before but I loved the Matrix world. If you are interested the animatrix and even the video games added to the world. I devoured it all and own the 10 disc box set. Most of it should be available on YouTube. My analysis ended up being way longer than I expected but hey it's about 8 hours worth of movies in there! I just think the series was such an interesting concept and hate the hate 2 and 3 get simply bc 1 was such a masterpiece. The time between the movies didn't help either IMO. It's like having an album by a band that you love and listen to all the time. If there is a significant amount of time before the next album comes out many fans struggle to embrace it as it isn't the music they associate with the band. Either way I look forward to more feedback on my summary (and thanks for yours!)

No worries. I can't respond to him bc frankly I'm tired of this debate. I've said all I need to say about Stevie and think people that want to bash him hate him more personally than professionaly. As for Welker he is a perfect example of new football. I've stated before and "enlightener" falls in the trap of confusing the x receiver with a #1 wr. They used to be the guy on the outside who did it all. They aren't now. They are the #1 receiving option on the team. Could be x,y, or z receivers. Could be a physical freak (megatron) a move the chains type (Hines ward) or slot (Welker). Now I've enlightened him!

Told you nobody wanted to be bored by me! ;-)

Averaging 100 catches per season for the next 8 years (not 7 as you stated) would be an amazing feat. He would be 39! That means no injuries, no slow down, and a continuing trend of hof qbs throwing to him. It could happen but it is extremely extremely unlikely. Think about it like this. In 6 years he caught more balls than anyone in nfl history in his prime. He still doesn't have half the catches rice had. He is also not in his prime anymore an has Eric decker and demaryious Thomas stealing catches from him this year. That said I am willing to take that bet if you'd care to wager.

Not a waste at all. Best case you knock their socks off and they waive the requirement. Worst case you gain experience for the next interview. Mention that you are planning to enroll in an online program and working on your degree ( you need to do this and not lie). Bring up in the interview that you are successful in your position and could be successful with the promotion. Mention that there are examples within your own company of people being successful without a degree. This is a tough situation but it is not an unnavigable one.

1. If at all possible talk with the outgoing manager to find out the ins and outs of the job. Where did they struggle, excel, and what barriers did they face. Come up with ways you won't struggle and can improve what is already going on. 2. Research everything you can about the position. Know the job description. Have ways that you will accomplish the job description. 3. Figure out your strengths and why you would be a good for the job. I work in h.r. And you wouldn't believe how many people aren't prepared for this question. 4. Do you guys have an internal website? Or a way to get your hands on the mission statement? Learn it and explain how you will help the company accomplish it. 5. Google sample interview questions for the job you want. Many interviewers have no idea what they are doing and ask generic questions. Have your wife, significant other, for friend ask you these question. Answering out loud while practicing will allow you to hear the answer and know whether it was a good one. Basically practice and prepare for the interview like crazy. External candidates won't be able to have the knowledge you do or can get and other internals may not prep as hard as you do. Good luck!

Alright my apologies being so late with this. I am doing this off of memory as requested so it may not be as complete as it could be. My memory isn't quite what it used to be. As I said in my earlier post the movies were purposefully left without explanation as the Wachoski's wanted each person to take and make their own inferences about what they thought the movies represented. I personally feel they are a question about fatalism and determinism with some amazing choregraphy. Here goes: In the first movie there is an internal struggle for Neo. Is he the one isn't he the one. When he visits the oracle she tells him that he isn't the one - at least in this lifetime. That is important to remember for later. As he begins to learn and gain the ability to manipulate the Matrix he begins to believe. Believing is a major storyline/plot point throughout the trilogy. The oracle also told Morpheus that he would find the one and that the one would be able to topple the Matrix. She also told Trinity that she would fall in love with a man and he would be the one. As both begin to believe in Neo, he in turn begins to believe in himself. All the while the prophecies are driving all of them to make choices. Again something important to remember for the 2nd and 3rd movies. At the end of the movie he runs from the agents because he doesn't quite believe in himself and having the ability to conquer the "unbeatable agents." When he gets shot and dies in the Matrix he should die in real life. However this is where he differs from a normal human being for the first time. He doesn't die and is brought back to life by Trinity's speech and then true love's kiss. She feels that since she loves him he must be the one. Since the Matrix is pretty much a dream state he is not actually dead and awakens. This makes the oracle's prediction of not in this lifetime come true. The agents have not seen it before and are just as shocked. He see the world in the code of the matrix much like sitting in the Nebuchadnezzer (butchered that spelling but hey this is from memory). He is the only one to see this as none of the others have mentioned that being the case for them. He then jumps into Agent Smith's body "destroying" him. The other agents flee and all seems right in the world. At the very very end of the movie after he hangs up the phone he flies away. Some people view this as him being a spiritual figure and these movies tying to religion and I can see that. Others view it as man vs machine and I can see that. The fatalism/determinism is just my personal thoughts and hopefully I can convey them here. Movie 2 and 3 won't have as much detail as I watched the first literally at least a 100 times. 2 and 3 not so much so I am going to blend the 2 and may get timelines confused. Bear with me as I did watch them many time so here goes: Movie 2 is when Neo really comes into his own. He learns and masters the Matrix and is an unstoppable force. Smith however has figured out how to make copies of himself and has begun infecting the Matrix. In the first movie Agents can invade any person's body but in this one he clones himself. This is done as the Matrix makes attempts to balance itself out. Since it is a computer program think of it as Neo and and Agent Smith as Viruses. The machines have begun to dig towards Zion so there is a concern among non-believers that the humans will soon be wiped out. Neo meets with the Oracle to decide his course of action and she has had to change bodies as helping the humans makes things unsafe for her. She (I believe) tells him about a key maker being held by the Merovingian. The merovingian who is an old program (we don't yet understand what this means) goes on a ramble about cauaslity. Reminding all of the people about what there actions will lead to. as he underestimates Neo and his abilities he does not expect the Humans to be able to win the war against the machines. His wife interjects as she can see the love between Trinity and Neo is real and that they are willing to die for each other. Speaking about causality to them means nothing and love is an emotion the Merovingian does not understand. She leads them to the key maker and he explains the backdoors in the matrix. He speaks about every program and person having a reason for existing (fatalism if you will). His is to get the key to the one. The highway scene that ensues is worth the price of admission for the second movie imo. As expected they are succesful and hatch their plan to get inside the Matrix mainframe. They are succesful in doing so and Neo meets with the Architect. He is an interesting and admittedly confusing character. He is the father of the Matrix. The master programmer if you will. It is here that he explains Neo is not the first and in his opinion not the last "one" and that the one is an error in the code. The machines tried a utopian society that was rejected by the humans. The machines then figured they would have to mirror society as closely as possible and set about doing so. The one and the matrix have been destroyed in the past and the architect feels it will happen again. He tells Neo that he can save the world or save Trinity and that the one always chooses wrong because of love. He is an emotionless program that doesn't understand human feelings which is why he continually struggles to create a perfect program. Trinity does die but Neo pulls the bullet out of her body and saves her (If you want the Jesus/religion angle this is his Lazarus moment) Agent Smith crosses over in the real world after invading a body right before they come out of the Matrix. At the end of the movie Neo is able to use his powers from the Matrix in the real world however it knocks him unconcious and places him in the train station. So both competing/balancing programs have crossed over to the real world. The train station is a port between worlds. It is how programs are uploaded to the Matrix and the little girl in the train station is a character that we will see again in the end. She is a program with feeling and emotion and takes a liking to Neo who has been trapped there as he uploaded to the Matrix without being Jacked in. This is where Neo is left in limbo and Agent Smith begins to take over the entire Matrix. The machines are continuing to drill to Zion and are getting closer and closer to what will be a massacre. Neo is saved when trinity and the group attacks the Merovingian. Again the power of love (love conquers all is another way to view these movies but I digress) proves to the Merovingians wife and he that they are willing to die and kill everyone on the way to save him. The belief is so strong in Neo that many people throughout all three movies are willing to do crazy things because "they believe" (again faith/religion). They eventually free him and he takes time to plot his next move. He decides to go to the machine city which is viewed as crazy by the non-belivers. He takes Trinity with him and Agent Smith sneaks on the ship. Smith takes over the oracle and talks about how she must have known he would be coming and that if she was there she must know what he plans to do. (he is correct but I'll save that). The other ship heads back to Zion to fight the good fight because whats her name (sorry memory lol) believes in Neo and believes in herself to navigate the sewer lines to get back in time to help. Agent Smith sabotages the ship and gets into a fight with Neo blinding him in the process. However Neo's belief in himself and his destiny is so strong his powers work in the real world. He is able to defeat Smith and continue on to the Machine city where he "feels" the attacks coming at them. He meets with the Deus ex-machina and explains that Smith has effectively destroyed the Matrix and he will defeat him if they stop attacking Zion. The machine agrees as the Matrix is a lost cause at this point. Neo is the only hope now for the humans and the machines. If the Matrix crashes they will lose all their field which are their power source and suffer great loss. Smith will effectively destroy the matrix, humans, and machines. Deus ex Machina agrees to Neos terms and plugs him back into the Matrix. He fights with Smith in an epic fight scene continuing to get up again and again because human will won't allow him to stay down then Neo realizes what he must do. By allowing Smith to take him over he disrupts the balance in the code. This destroys Smith as his counterbalance has been destroyed. His yin to Smith's yang disrupts the program and Smith effectively destroys himself. The Matrix reboots itself much like any computer program that crashes. All of this was typed for the very end. The oracle and the architect meet and have a conversation. Humans will be free to leave the Matrix if they choose (which has been discussed in the first movies that some people will chooose to stay even though they know it isn't reality). The architect mentions that the Oracle played a dangerous game and asked if she always knew the outcome. She says no but that she believed. To me the Oracle led the humans down a path that if succesful would end the war. Which is why there were several editions of the Matrix as she kept trying to end the war. Did all of the people do the things they did because it was their destiny (fatalism) or did they do them because they decided to (determinism). That answer is up to the viewer to decide. Close second to me is Neo as a savior (Jesus) and the story being about faith and what it can help you accomplish. Sometimes faith is the strongest thing in the world and can conquer everything. Or love conquers all as I previously stated. Take your pick. I just spent way to long typing to leave it as you decide but that is how I started my post and how I will end. I hope I just gave you some ideas to chew on. If you really are interested there are many websites dedicated to the discussion and can help you formulate your own opinion. The original movie is perfection to me. One of the best movies I have ever seen. I think it being so great is what leads people to discount 2 and 3. They are good movies just not the perfection that 1 was. Also there is the animatrix if you really want to dive deep into the world and they are very interesting on their own.