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Yeah this loss stings as up to this point the Bills didn't have a wtf loss yet this year and that was my biggest defense of Marrone. The Raiders have been playing well lately and are 3-0 in their last 3 home games. That said the Bills needed that win especially with things breaking right in the early games. I unnaturally despise Orton. I'm not sure if it because I wanted to see what EJ could do, or if it is because I think he sucks, or if it is because he looks like he couldn't care less, or if it is because I care waaaayyyy too much lol. Either way I hope he gets greedy this offseason and tries to sucker another team into bringing him in. However good anyone thinks he is I don't see a way that anyone could justify him as the starting qb next year. I don't see how anyone could watch him the last few weeks and think this guy can get us to the promised land.

You are correct!!! I noticed when checking fantasy for late season pickups that Hogan and Stevie are having almost identical years statistically. I wonder if the Taco bet has been paid yet? I believe it us to 2 tacos now!

I too would take Arians and Ej but that is because I have the utmost repsect for Arians as a coach and think he is one of the best in the game right now. Marrone isn't on his level but taking Arians over him is like saying I would take Belichick over him. I like Marrone and I like the job he has done here. I am completely over Orton though and that is why I agree with your statement. I never want to have to watch him play qb again unless it is against the Buffalo Bills. He isn't the worst qb in the league but he is a qb that you can't win with. The next time he straps this team on his back and carries them to victory will be his first. As for the stats I laid out, I just wanted to point out that this is a very qb driven league. When the Cardinals had one they won and scored points. Now that they don't have one they aren't and can't. I always root for the Bills almost to a fault and my post was actually defending them so I'm not so sure what the rest of your post meant lol.

Player x: 40 catches, 423 yards, 4 tds, long catch of 31. Stevie: 35 catches, 435 yards, 3 tds, long catch of 32. Want to guess who player x is?

My hindsight sense want to ask you if enjoyed watching that coaching staff get 6 points yesterday? Arizona is 8-1 this year with Carson Palmer and 3-3 without. They are averaging a robust 11.66 points without Carson Palmer and were averaging 24.77 with him. They have yet to break 20 points in any of the 6 games without him and didn't break 20 points in 1 of 9 games with him. Can we now put to rest the "look what Arians is doing with scrubs at qb argument?"

Murray is far from a no name running back. Not to mix fantasy football with real life but reports have been coming in all year about how he was ready to breakout. He had 2 tds against the Chiefs that were the first 2 given up all year in week 11. That said he has been a poor hc. If you want him as oc be ready for the wildcat to come back. Pass.

Not only did he start studying he said that he grew up when he got traded. Add that to being a west coast kid and Seattle was a very good landing spot for him to do well.

They just measured the spot in the new England game and they were short. They were given the first down even after rex challenged it lol

Now SD is just punuking San Fran

Game over

All the momentum with SD hopefully sf can find some magic

Alright we've got a chanice here!

I think the SD coach just motioned that they would be going for 2 if they scored! This is so sick

Can't ever be easy for Bills fans lol

4th and 6 on the screen ball 8 yds from the los and they convert sunuvabitch!

Come on niners d stand tall here!

? Are you from the future?

Kaep has proven all year not to be the guy counted on. No td passes in the 4th quarter for 18 straight fames coming into tonight.

And Floyd with another example of a dumb play not going oob

That should have been intentional grounding by kyle Orton in Miami rules

Although these are the types of things I talk about when ppl com plain about everything Bills. Teams and players make terrible decisions all the time. Although sf certainly is making more than usual tonight.

Kaep running oob there showing a complete lack of understanding of time and situations .

After that return I'll take some points!

Cmon sf nice 5:15 drive to kill the clock and end the game here please.

I know. Who honestly thought it was a good idea? Just call it football and people will watch it. It sounds so dumb every time I heat it.