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Not really. He put up volume stats but his is one case where the Browns were ahead of the curve. He had 11 tds but only averaged 3.6 ypc. He has 4 20+ yard runs in his career! His longest is 32 yards. He simply put isn't good.

Police have been called to his home 5 times since March. Hopefully all is well with him! On a side note best comment I've seen: "What if he's just in StL wondering where everyone is?"

Thanks for this! I was very happy to see your placeholder. The season is truly around the corner when we see these notes

I just read that the numbers were misreported. It is a 4 year 48 million dollar extension. Added to the 2 years 15 million he has left on his deal. That is where the 63 came from. So he has a contract for 6 years/63 million. Much better for kc but still banking on improvement for it to be worthwhile.

You make a statement, get asked to back it up, and follow up with I'm not going to research it for you? Weird.... Some things to think about amidst all of the Rex bashing: Tyrod was 8-6 as a starter last year. The 2 games he missed were the Jax EJ debacle and Cincinnati. I think that if he starts both of those games we win the Jax game and finish with the same record as the year before. The combination of Tyrod, Sammy, and LeSean played 10 games where they were all healthy last year. During those games they averaged 26.5 points which would have been good for 4th in the league. As Edward's Arm will tell you (is he still around?) ypa is the greatest predictor of QB success. Tyrod averaged a robust 7.99 which was good enough for 4th in the league. If (and a big if) the triples can stay healthy the Bills should have a potent offense. I'm on the Tyrod bandwagon and am hoping for big things from him. The season rests on him more than any other person in the organization imo.

Nobody is butt hurt in this thread lol. On a side note... Absolutely do not wish him luck. He moved to the best team in the division. I hope he develops a severe case of the dropsies.

Didn't they not have the money until Wilkerson signed his deal?

He certainly isn't the saint that Da'Rick is

Yup my thoughts exactly. He just gave non-inflamatory quotes and then the author made it seem much worse that what they were.

TIL CBF spends a lot of time on Reddit and then cross posts to TBD One of my favorites is that Ohio is the only state that doesn't share a letter with the word mackerel. Strangely enough it is also the only state without an a,n, or s. Which means that it also is the only state that doesn't share a letter with anus.

Absolutely 100%

I'm thinking Ragland as losing Brandon Spikes was a bigger loss to me last year than most. A tough run stopping LB was a clear need last year. Also LBs put up the volume stats that people like to see when thinking about impact.

The most interesting thing I saw in that was the tweet at the bottom where Fitz admitted to not working out much this off season. Not a good look for Fitz if it is true. We are going to have to agree to disagree on Harrison. IMO he was the heart and soul of their run d. They still do have a lot of talent but not as much as last year which naturally tells me it won't be as good. 6 to 8 wins sounds right to me so we aren't far off. However do you think the Jets would be happy about that? Look at the hand wringing that has gone on all off season here going from 9-7 to 8-8. I think last year was a mirage and expect them to come back to reality this year. If Fitz struggles this year or the team regresses in the win column I wonder what his offers will be next year.

Interesting that the right side of their line appears to be a weak link as well. IIRC wasn't it Rex who exposed Fitzpatrick while he was still with the Bills? As a coordinator and HC he is 8-1 vs Fitzpatrick. Also an interesting tidbit for Fitz's record breaking year... He fell 102 yards short of the passing yards team record. The only record he set was Number of tds. I had thought through the course of this conversation it was both.

Here is why I think they will regress... They lost Damon Harrison which is a huge loss in the middle of their defense. (pun intended) They lost D'Brickashaw Ferguson who has been a mainstay for 10 years. They replaced him with an oft injured Ryan Clady. Lost Cromartie and Revis is another year older after looking old last year. Their schedule is much harder this year than last year. So in short, they are worse at o-line, d-line, and secondary. They improved at rb and lb.

Seconded. We have already seen the Fitz show.

I don't know about playing harder but the team always seemed prepared. That was my favorite thing about Marrone.

How so?

The difference was 2 games. I even pointed the 2 games with different opponents for you. If the Bills play Cleveland last year do you think they win? If the Jets played the Bengals do you think they win? Not meaningless but can't be viewed in a vacuum. W-L record between 2 teams has a lot of nuance to it beyond what the ending total is.

I couldn't disagree more with this statement... Let me back up my position.... The teams had similar schedules with 2 games different. The Bills played KC and Cincinnati who were 2 playoff teams that won a combined 23 games. The Jets played Oakland and Cleveland two teams that combined for 10 wins. That is a huge disparity in quality of competition. So yes the Jets finished with a better record with a much easier schedule. Add in that the Jets lost both head to head games and I have a tough time saying the Jets were definitively the best team.

I'm saying definitively yes he can do that. I won't say that he can do the yards and tds because we haven't seen it yet. Guess what though? Until last year we hadn't seen it from Fitz either. Again you are hung up on volume stats. Both of those franchise records speak to the league and its rules more so than Fitz and his talent. His franchise record yards was 15th in the league phrasing is important. You frame it as some amazing feat when it is simply average. Is he better than Geno at this stage? Absolutely. That in no way means that the Jets must sign him. Fitz is exactly who he showed as the Bills Qb. A guy that will play well in spurts, is easy to root for, and one of the last qbs you want trying to win you a game. So the question becomes is it better to go forward with Fitz and be an average team, or is it better to see once and for all what you have with Geno, or is it better to sink or swim with one of the young guys (likely Hackenburg). I think the Jets want Fitz back but can't afford his asking price and he doesn't want back for what they can afford. Hence the impasse. I agree wholeheartedly that Fitz makes the Jets better. I don't think he has them over a barrel as it seems you do. The Jets can move forward without him and I don't think it has a drastic effect on the win total. The Jets have one of the hardest schedules in the leagues and will be lucky to make 8-8 no matter who their qb is. I don't think you can claim that as fact.... I will agree with your second paragraph and stated as much earlier in the thread. Back to your first post, suppose it is fact, is 8-8 with Fitz at 12 million better than 3-13 with cap space and the ability to target a top qb in the draft? Certainly a debatable point. I just don't see Fitz being a 5 win difference maker in this league so I can't see your post as fact. I did a little more digging on his game logs.... Fitz passed for more than 300 yards once last year He had 3 or more tds in 3 games He had 3 or more ints in 2 games He had less than 50% completion in 3 games He had less than 60% completion in 7 games This screams caretaker more than quality starter. I don't see a 5 win difference between him and others that could be trotted out there. Add in the fact that Forte will help the ground and short passing game and the Jets could be fine without Fitz. He has nowhere else to go.

No as I stated Fitz certainly can walk away. He is playing a game of chicken with himself though. The Jets certainly can start Geno. They were ready to start him last year. Fitz wasn't brought in to be the starter last year. He did play well in spots but he put up volume stats not quality stats. He only completed 59.5 % of his passes (29th in the league) for 6.9 ypa (27th in the league) for a rating of 88 (24th in the league). Also people need to adjust their qb expectations with the volume stats. He did indeed pass for 3900 yards (15th in the league), his 31 tds only put him at 10th in the league, and he was 5th in the league for ints. So he is bottom half of the league in completion %, ypa, qb rating, and ints. Looking beyond the numbers is important for this conversation. 3900 yards and 31 tds sounds great until you put it in context of the rest of the league and rest of his stats. See above. Geno can do all of that with the exception of maybe the yards/tds. However extrapolating out his game that he came in as a sub from last year (freely admit not a guarantee) would put him at 4240 yards and 32 tds. I'll beat it to death but Fitz put up volume stats not quality stats.

It was a question that piqued my interest. I will be honest though I thought the number would have been higher. It was surprising how many SB winning coaches had long stretches of losing but nobody had 5 consecutive. It was also surprising: how few SB winning coaches there were. 50 Super Bowls won by 31 coaches longest gaps between SB victories was Bill B with 10 years 0 coaches were able to win with different teams Gibbs and Parcells are the only coaches to win SBs with different qbs (the most interesting stat to me)

Did some work for this.... Weeb Ewbanks had .500 or worse seasons 7 of 8 years (including 6 straight) before winning SB III Tom Landry had a .500 or worse record his first 5 years as a coach That is it for 5 years in a row. However a surprising amount of SB winning coaches had 3 straight losing seasons, 4 of 5 losing seasons, and none were able to recreate the magic and win a sb with a different team. I like that Rex has made us a story again and brought the Bills back to relevance. He has made being a Bills fan fun. He does have some warts as a coach. The Mario debacle falls on his shoulders for not benching him, the KC replay management was for lack of a better word pathetic, and the this is our super bowl before the 1st pats game were a bit much. I enjoy him as the coach and hope he does better but I don't put him in the same league as a Bill Belichick as a coach (very few that I do) but he is a better than average coach and one I believe the Bills can win with.