Malazan

A new owner would have loan payments. You know that, but decided to purposely misunderstand for some reason.

I presented you with actual facts. I assume 'sense' in this case means 'agree with whatever I say'. I'm sorry, but there is little to back you up that there is some sort of secret pot of gold for the NFL in Buffalo. Here's information from the one team that reports publicly:

Many NFL teams are sold with significant amount of loans. I'm not sure what you think happens. Do you think most teams are bought outright with cash in the NFL? That's crazy. Hell, Jerry Jones financed a good chunk of his new stadium.

He got more money? As I understood it, the Bills had offered him a contract, he tested the market got no interest then came back to the Bills and ended up looking at deal for less money with Cleveland and then got slightly more than that with the 49ers. He is getting a 3 year 11.75 million deal right now. Wasn't the initial Bills offer for about 12 million?

I would look for a 2013 first round swap and a 2nd rounder this year or a 2nd and fourth or better next year. If that is not available then I'd take the best player available. I'm very much against drafting solely on 'need'. I think upgrading from sh*t to merely bad doesn't win you game while upgrading from good to great is a better choice.

I wasn't glad to see him go, but his production did not merit his presence. Let's not forget the market wasn't hot for him and he lucked into San Fran picking him up last moment. He has a big mouth and doesn't back it up on the field. He's a pigeoned holed player. If you ask him to do things that are within his range, he'll be very good. The Bills defense did not and does not currently have the talent level for that. Hopefully, they get there that they can support players like this as it makes you a better overall team when you can have roleplayers on the field more often.

I'm basing it mostly off Forbes. http://www.forbes.co...falo-bills-2/ There are other reports that seem to show years as much as 40.9 million and as low as 11 million. We'll never know for sure, but I'd say Forbes is the most accurate. Just to have it in perspective...Peyton Manning makes roughly 10 million less than the entire Bills organization and the Bills handed out almost 25 million in cash to Mario last year. I apologize for not providing the link previously.

Funny, it's been an issue for most NFL owners. You may also want to see Snyder, Daniel. He financed almost all of the redskins and assumed debt. So now that you're offbase and wrong, has your opinion changed? The bills are reported to make roughly 30 million a year. As previously stated, this isn't exactly a large amount considering their lack of loan payments.

Revis is widely accepted as the best defensive play in football. He's not making much money this year. The new team gets to negotiate his contract. I don't see any compelling reasons a team would decide to give up draft picks this year for Mario when they could have just signed him last year. He didn't have a bad year, but he didn't have a year that suddenly going to make teams give up picks to get a contract they were unwilling to give him last year.

No, but a team or any business needing a solid and stable source of revenue is a fact.

They would never give up that much for Williams. Mario is not being traded. If anyone wanted him that much, they would have signed him last season. Maybe try zombo.com instead to get through the day at work. I watch it several hours a day.

Not really. I'm holding out hope the Bills stay in Buffalo. I think people miss that Ralph owns the Bills outright. The Bills are generally reported to make about 30 million a year. That sounds like a lot, but think about this... The Bills sell for 700 million (likely a low number). That would mean it would take 23.3 years to pay back that loan at 30 million a year (that is without interest). There's not many banks that are going to finance that with the team staying in Buffalo. There's far too much risk that the financials go south and loan payments can't be made.

Did they sell enough merchandise to pay the 7 million to Vanek? You don't know anything about the Sabres financials.

I think you're overstating your case.

If he plays, I think he stays where he's at...don't see it working out with the Bills. Not every player who is a free agent, release, on the trade block needs to come to the Bills.

reality? On TBD? What?

Is there an actual source for this? This feels more like, "Man, I wish we had Freeman." then talking yourself into the idea that the Bucs would trade him.

It's something I noted as the season began. Last season we heard about how much Fitz and Stevie worked during the offseason. We didn't hear about that this last offseason.

I just want to take a moment and point out that 'Franchise' QB is getting thrown around a lot. One good year does not make a franchise QB.

Yes, fans are not rational

This thing that hasn't happened yet is because of this other thing! I WANT TO YELL! AHHHHH!

In dream world, I'd prefer Nassib in the 2nd round over the 1st if that is who they go with, but I don't think that is realistic. Hopefully, Marrone and Pettine bring a culture change with them.

The ole fan fallacy. They also only want the guys they hear about on ESPN. They seem to forget that an NFL organization is responsible for thousands of players and many you never hear about.

I already posted it in this very thread.

You're arguing for a reasoned response and analysis to people who just want to yell.