Malazan

Jets being top ten on yards is misleading. They weren't very good in some other areas like sacks/rushing/3rd downs.

I'm sure any and all success stems from your inability to criticize others more successful than you.

So like only Bill Gates can criticize Jess Bezos...well, that's a bold position. Also, before we can continue criticizing each other's argument here, we better determine which one of us is more successful in their field of work.

I get what you're going for, but it's a fan forum. This is like going to a strip club and complaining about the patrons not acting like good Christians. Things are going to embellished and people are going to say things in a more extreme manner than they likely really feel. Also, the idea that people can't criticize someone if they don't have the equivalent of success in their field that the person they are criticizing has in theirs is sort of a strange one.

Rosen was destined to be a wasted pick. Allen may or may not turn out to be a FQB, but either way, he's not a wasted pick. He's got a shot to develop. So I would have felt bad. I never believed that Rosen was going to make it. Rosen/Mayfield were the two I believed would be tire fires.

Don't worry about how you get in as long as you didn't exploit the rules.

No, it's never been important to current players unless it meant higher salaries *now*. It's only important to them afterwards when they suffer the effects and the money has run out.

... We're talking about Ngakoue, not clowney. Message boards aren't that hard.

Something you haven't done.

Yes. I'd actually say that $15 is a bargain given the rising salaries in the NFL and the LT position compared against the quality of his play.

I've always been of the mind that "drafting" is pretty easy. Development is the hard part. There's few secrets about how talented, motivated, etc that players are and that most guys that get drafted (in the top 3 rounds especially) are all able to be good players. I think that any talent evaluation and drafting apparatus is capable of making mostly good picks. However, the hard part is ensuring that you have the services/training/support structure to accommodate the player you drafted and is where teams fail. Whether you say it's part of drafting to know that you do/don't have that the means to ensure the success of that player could be drafting, but I hold the two as separate because an NFL team has the resources and should be able to put a program in place for almost any player who passes the bar to be in the upper rounds to succeed.

He's been pretty clear about what he feels on his own self worth (and I'd say he's not just looking for top 5...he wants to be #1). I knew he had 8 sacks, but I didn't know that had him tied for 33rd in the league last season.

Numbers declining for the 3rd straight year and not being in the top 20 for sacks doesn't scream make him the highest paid DE on a long term deal to me, but someone is going to do it and expect him to play up to that contract thus Fool's Gold.

I think they said no to paying for it. Which leaves a lot of room for negotiations in them giving tax breaks, paying for other renovations around the stadium, etc, etc. Also...the whole when does what they 'say' mean anything?

Is Cooper the right receiver? Is water really wet? What about sars or the flu? I have no problem with her being your cousin.

He was not good the last 2 years. So if McDermott can do it with a castoff from Miami...what does Dareus bring that another castoff won't? Attitude? Effort? Hunger (not the kind to be filled with cheeseburgers)?

Yannick Ngakoe

The guy's numbers have been declining. He's only broken double digit sacks once and wants 22 mill a year. I said before, he will be a 'regret' contract. He will get paid and won't live up to it. People on here roasted me for that opinion before, but how you get to paying him the highest DE salary for a guy whose numbers are closer to Lawson and Jordan Jenkins than they are to the top 10 guys in sacks makes little sense.

Players will fight tooth and nail against individual contract limits because of the lottery syndrome. Even while most players will never see a 40 million dollar contract, they all want to believe they will.

The TB12 effect

I thought (and still do) that Bell was overrated and the Jets signing him was a mistake. I didn't think he could reproduce his success on the Steelers elsewhere (..and he didn't) and would be a huge distraction/selfish guy. I was wrong on his attitude and behavior. He did whatever was asked of him behind a terrible line. He didn't complain. He didn't cause problems in the locker room. He publicly defended his coaches and teammates. He gave a ton of effort even if he didn't have the results so it's really strange that the Jets would do this bush league sniping with anonymous comments. ..but it's the Jets and Gase so sounds about right.

It's generally a good idea to stop doing what brought you success.

Well, this thread took a real turn and turned to crap

I don't think it makes sense for Daboll. One more year and if he makes the Bills offense..mediocre then he can write his ticket in the NFL. His pedigree and then taking an awful offense up to bad and then mediocre would have him generating a lot of buzz. Given that he projects to returns most of his starters or possibly upgrade them and the continuity of a 3rd year, his prospects look better in Buffalo look much better than trying to turn around a program in flux where you need a bigger name than Daboll's to pull in recruits.

..people still haven't realized that trolling is good business. They say something outlandish and the internet gets in a hubbub thus driving traffic. Basically, they cause car crash to attract onlookers.