Malazan

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41740543/nfl-nflpa-bills-allen-was-properly-evaluated-concussion

The neurologist approved and hired by NFLPA believes they can so can you educate me on why they're wrong? I assume you've done your own research.

Do you not have answers? Are you just emotionally flailing around? Was this just a random thought that entered your thread? Will you try to deflect some more instead of having any sort of basis for opinion?

I'm glad I found an expert to educate me. 1. What are the Bills man games lost during that time period vs the rest of the league? 2. What is a strength and conditioning staff doing differently than the rest of the league? 3. What changes to the strength and conditioning routine do they need to change and how? 4. Who are the replacement strength and conditioning coaches that you think are doing well?

So the NFLPA, ie the player's union who sued the league over concussions, is in on it too? The independent neurologists are hired by both NFL and NFLPA.

oh, you googled and it now you're an expert. Enough of one to claim that the actual experts could be easily fooled. We can have a google fight as stupid as that is.. Dr. Harry Kerasidis who worked on creating new concussion tests: So is your argument is that Allen did and managed to successfully fake his baselines before the season beyond all the measures in place to prevent that, then managed to fool the doctors evaluating him person and then lied about it based on your google search. You're right. How silly of me. I'm such a fool for relying on the analysis of actual neurosurgeons who evaluated the patient. Or.. how about we just do the logical thing and admit that we don't know anything about concussions and that believe the experts who say that to the best of their ability, did not believe Allen had a concussion.

yes, you replying to a discussion that I was having with another poster is me interjecting. You won't answer questions on your positions. You don't fool anyone with your BS.

Yes, we're all aware of how clever you think you are by not stating your actual opinions and trying to snipe from the sidelines. If you weren't aware, nobody is actually fooled by it though. So your silly game of "I asked you a question first" is utterly asinine because prior to that I asked you if you thought Allen and all the doctors were lying which you didn't answer. Would you like to continue the childish game of "who asked question first then?"

Your strawman ain't looking too good.

Was Allen unconscious?

I think they should Mayo and Wolf for years to come. Give them a 6 year contract like the Jets did with Douglas or a lifetime contract like the Dolphins did with Grier!

He was 9-30 for the whole game... Do concussions cause retroactive problems in the past?

So none of the medical professionals that were present and evaluated Allen believe he lost consciousness and Allen himself says he didn't. So unless you're insinuating that they're all lying.. how is this relevant?

Even then.. the people that create the power rankings often say that they're wild and often not reflective of reality. For example, some write them based off the last week only.. others the season to date. Others incorporate last season's results. Same thing as draft rankings.. the people that make them say they're silly as hell, but since people love to read them.. they keep doing them.

It says it's made up from ESPN Power Rankings which is hilarious. Some nerd. Bills Opponents / Current ESPN Power Rankings Jets / 21st Titans / 28th Seahawks / 12th Dolphins / 23rd Colts / 22nd Chiefs / 1st 49ers / 13th Rams / 27th Lions / 4th Patriots / 32nd Jets / 21st Patriots / 32nd

They can't be hired without the NFLPA.

You think the neurologists, hired by the NFLPA, and the team medical staff don't have access to videos of the hit (in addition to all of their other tests)? That's certainly an opinion that a person could have.. I guess.

..but the TV doctors were able to diagnose it.. 🙄 ..and I'm sure you can tell me what the baseline tests that you think are so easy to fake pass are without looking them up..

I'm not sure you have good understanding of the geography of New York.

The hilarious thing is Woody Johnson said they fired him and promoted Ulbrich to get some more positivity. Saleh's main slogan is "Positive Vibes Only". He had t-shirts made with it.

At least, we'd have a cheerleader again and I do like my cheerleaders bald.

So to paraphrase" 1. Josh Allen is lying and after being knocked silly and concussed was coherent enough to fake being ok 2. Independent Neurologists hired by the player's union are lying or incompetent 3. Team medical staff are lying or incompetent But you, with your years of expertise and being a paragon of virtue, know the truth. Did your own research, did you?

1. It's not the NFL that has been keeping anti-concussion helmets out of the league. Each and every time, it's been the players and their union opposing it. 2. Josh doesn't get a say in the decision of whether he's concussed or not. An independent neurologist chosen by the NFL and NFLPA does. They are beholden as much to the NFLPA as they are to the league itself. He also gets investigated by team physicians who are beholden to the team, but are extremely unlikely to make a shortsighted decision.

The Bills defense hasn't been as bad as people seem to think so not sure why there's a rush to sign bad players from other teams especially with Bernard and Johnson due to come back soon.

I know and I'm not trying to rake them over the coals about it. I just don't put much stock in 'taking blame' for something you have to take blame for.. What impresses me is fixing it and, to date, no one has found a way to keep Allen from going "Sugar High Josh". They didn't need to win the game there. They needed to get to halftime and see what they could do there. We'll find out more this week because the Jets defense has been much, much better since Mosley went out and they have some youth and speed in the middle.