CSBill

I didn't read the thread, but it's all so predictable . . . Bills lose, people are walking out on the ledge. Come on people, use some commons sense and some creativity when creating threads . . . what was the line: " … what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room (on this board) is now dumber for having listened to it."

Glenn! Really??? what more could you want out of him?

You ask: Does anybody care about the rest of the season. Answer: Yes!

Oh there are so many good ones to choose from . . . - the obvious is Norwood, but that's too easy - Yeah, the Nick Folk kick was a good one - Homerun Throwback (forward) has to get serious consideration - Do we have any of the Leodis McK. fumble against NE a few years ago to snatch Defeat from the jaws of Victory - And anything with Aaron Maybin in it, or has all that video been burned But I have to give this a vote: Just when we were about to get hope beyond hope that this team might indeed be special, a Dback torched, falling down, looks up, ball coming right to him, returns it for a TD, instead of up by 2+ scores, Chiefs back in the game and rolled us from there . . . http://youtu.be/oxjHIhlh5ys

Ah, the classic! . . .

Was just wondering, after reading the thread title, did the league give you a call and explanation yet?

Yes, I thought the same thing . . . first time I saw it all year. Good! Now maybe he needs to direct some it at his own players.

Ask the Cleveland fans if they are now Ravens fans? Answer: No! and it was no before they were given another team. Ask the Baltimore fans if they now cheer for the Colts? Answer: No! and again, it was that way before they were given the Ravens (Browns). Ask fans in LA if they still cheer for the Rams, or Raiders? Answer: No! why would they? So, if the Bills did leave Buffalo, I would probably switch loyalties. And after 13 years of misery, and a bunch more before the Super Bowl run, I think I also have the right to pick a winning team, just so I can enjoy that experience again. And especially so I can feel what its like for my favorite team to win a Super Bowl. Which is becoming a Bucket List kind-of thing for us older fans. Hmmmm? So who? Patriots? Broncos? Saints? Colts? Well, we'll see when it comes.

It sure seems like Gilmore has digressed. He was beat like a cheap drum all day long.

Indeed, it does.

Now let's not screw it up by winning meaningless games. We can do no more than two more wins to stay in the top 10 picks.

Good News: We will be getting a good draft pick, and this team is still a few players away from being good. Hey, you really didn't think we were going to make the play-offs did you? Might as well start positioning for a good pick. As I see it, the best we'll be is 6-10, I think we'll be competitive, but I can only see two more wins this season. I think that will keep us in the top ten picks again. Go Bills!

This just in: Williams sits, Stephan Charles starts, has game of his life! Becomes Canadian National Hero, and full-time stater for Bills. Kyle Williams become the the Wally Pipp of the Buffalo Bills franchise.

Great QB play is good, always good, no matter how good—or bad—the o-line is. Obviously, if you can get one, get him. Like deodorant, a good/great QB can cover up a lot of bad smells, but the problem is, the bad smell is still there, and given time, will eventually show itself. Therefore, even better, get your good (or great QB—which by the way, is such a subjective process of evaluating—see the Flacco discussions above; however, mediocre or bad is easy to stop—see the Bills the past 10 years) and surround him with a very good o-line, and now you have a winning combo. So, if you think the the Bills have a top tier QB now (and I do), time to improve the line play as soon as you can! I say "yes,"draft good lineman "IF" they're available. The real question now for the Bills will be: If a game changer offensive weapon becomes available in the draft, do you take him over an equally competent and rightly valued lineman in the same drafting spot? I say, "YES." Take the guy who can score points! Surely lineman influence the outcome of a game in many ways, but "game changers" are point scorers—you need them at any level of football. Thus, equal value, draft the game changer, if not, draft the better football player that is addressing a need you have (o-line, d-line, linebacker, etc.).

Is he replaceable? Yes! Would the replacement be as good? No! Should we do all to keep him? Yes!

Wasn't he a starter in the 2nd half of his rookie season, 5 of last 7 games was starting LT? And last year, until he was hurt: • at SF (10/7), Started at left tackle ... part of an offensive line that only allowed one sack throughout the contest • at Ari. (10/14), started at left tackle and helped pave the way for 165 yards on the ground • vs. Ten. (10/21), made his third straight start at left tackle and helped lead a rushing attack that amassed 166 yards • at Hou. (11/4), started at right tackle and helped offense produced 308 yards of total offense • at NE (11/11), started at right tackle... part of an offense that produced season bests of 481 total yards and a time of possession of 33:50 • vs. Mia. (11/15), started at right tackle, part of an offense that produced 120 yards on the ground • at Ind. (11/25): started at right tackle, part of an offense that produced a 100-yard rusher (C.J. Spiller - 107) and a 100-yard receiver (Stevie Johnson - 106) for the first time since 11/21/10 at Cin. (F. Jackson - 116 rush, Stevie Johnson - 137 rec.) • vs. Jac. (12/2), started at right tackle, part of an offense that produced 232 rushing yards and did not give up a sack ... left the game in the third quarter and did not return

Current Tight Ends? Chandler: B+ receiver, C Blocker, B Speed . . . is what he is, never going to be All-Pro, but a solid player. My take: A valuable player to have around as long as he's affordable. Gragg: C Receiver, D Blocker, A- Speed . . . is intriguing, but I suspect his football IQ is not very high, or we be seeing more of him. My take: untapped potential so far, would like to see more of him, but maybe there's not more to see??? Smith: C- Receiver, A- Blocker, C Speed . . . will always be a blocking TE, and emergency safety valve when needed, or occasional surprise the D type of receiver. My take: as long as he contribute well on ST, he'll stay around. As for the draft? Yeah, if you can get one of the top tier guys, yes, draft him. But there are bigger needs on the team, so don't reach for a TE at the sake of a greater need, or over a better player (for the draft spot - i.e., BPA type) that can help the team somewhere else. As for a FA: No realistic shot at the top guys, and I don't think there are any others worth breaking the bank over. Again, if you're going to spend big money, there are greater needs (LG, LB, ??).

Great post and analysis San Jose Bill! I agree with everything you have posted, and I add these other thoughts: 9) It is much harder to build a longterm dominating line in the era of free agency. Think about this, if the Bills had/could have kept their best linemen over the past few year, you could add Jason Peters (whether we like him as a person or not, he is still one of the best in the NFL) and Andy LeV., and Butler could still be playing — with Wood, Urbik, and Glenn — now that has the potential to be a dominating offensive line. But with free agency, such things are not going to happen. Great line plays takes a lot of time to develop (chemistry, and all), and again, in this day and age, that is not going to happen . . . I doubt there is not a team in the NFL now that could not say they need to upgrade people on their offensive line. 10) I hope Chris Hairston is going to be back next season (does anyone know the specifics of his injury, and what his future status is?). If so, we have answered the RT position, and should we keep Pears around, he gives us a solid back-up situation at the tackle position . . . this is the best case scenario. 11) As for left guard, maybe one of the recent FA acquisitions can step up and be a real contributor there? Maybe? But, if the coaching staff and front office don't see this happening, then be aggressive in getting a quality draft pick there (even to the degree of being willing to trade for that pick it in the early rounds if needed), or, be aggressive in recruiting a quality starting FA for that position (I have no idea what might be available), but we certainly better be kicking the tires on that. Appendix: As for building this team going forward, like all teams, you cannot go wrong building a team with top linemen, both on offense and defense. So when you can get them, get them! And even better, do what you need to keep them! Right now we have quality players on both sides, but we need to do all we can to keep them, and to add to them when given the chance. By the way, I was one of them . . . I don't think I've ever been more wrong in my Bills armchair GM perspective. Fortunately, they can't fire me.

it was actually the bowl game in NYC last year (Yankee Stadium) against Syracuse, with snow and wind, that convinced me he wasn't the guy for Buffalo . . . up to that time, I was all for him. I came away from that game questioning if he could handle the elements, so far he hasn't handle them, nor NFL Defenses.

Johny Manziel back to the top of the draft board?

Bottom line, when you have top tier o-lineman, you should do all you can to keep them. Bills made a major miscalculation in letting LeVitre walk, and that problem started a few years ago when they didn't pre-empt him from leaving by giving him a contract before his old one ran out (like they did with Wood). Lets hope they do not make that same mistake with Glenn.

Wow, he looks like he's about 13 years old, or am I just getting old? Does he shave?

and not soon enough, I turn off the sound when he is doing games . . . drone, speak boringly, go on and on, talk at length; intone, pontificate; informal spout, sound off, jaw, spiel, speechify, bloviate, etc.etc. and usually about nothing of relevance

Try him at LG! He will be on the 53 man roster, so I'm assuming they expect him to be able to contribute now. Especially if someone goes down. Let's hope he turns out like another late season practice squad pick-up: Kraig Urbic