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Metzelaars was 6-7 255, and had great feet as he was one of the best D-III basketball players of all time. Played 16! years in the league. Hawes is 6-4 and 255.

Pete Metzelaars scored 45 points in the 1982 Division III Basketball National Championship game. Shot 73% from the field during his career.

In 1964 when Philbin came out, Bills DE's were Ron McDole and Tom Day. Mc Dole was one of the elite DE's in the league who went on to a long and storied 240 game career. I doubt Philbin in his first few years would have cracked the starting lineup at DE until after Day moved on in 1967. Our Outside linebackers at the time were Stratton and Tracey, who were both studs from 64-66 as well.

Actually the WR group was very stacked. Frank Lewis was next after Lee Evans, followed by Elbert Dubenion, Bob Chandler, Stevie Johnson, and then Butler. Yeah that D Backfield of my youth was special.

My list had Reuben. He is actually the guard with the highest AV in Bills history, above HOF'r Billy Shaw.

I went through my data [mainly PFR] and came up with the following All-Time Bills 22 + Kicker & Punter. QB Josh Allen RB OJ Simpson WR Andre Reed WR Eric Moulds WR Lee Evans TE Pete Metzelaars T Dion Dawkins T House Ballard G Billy Shaw G Ruben Brown C Kent Hull DE Bruce Smith DT Tom Sestak DT Ted Washington DE Ron McDole LB Mike Stratton LB London Fletcher LB Cornelius Bennett CB Butch Byrd CB Robert James S George Saimes S Tony Greene K Steve Christie P Paul Maguire It should be noted that Jim Kelly, Thurman, and Fred Smerlas are equally worthy of a spot, those positions were very close.

No Punt game at SFO was a pretty good display of offense Jimbo had 403 yards passing and 3 TD's.

However 'The Comeback" was engineered by the Frankish Reich, who was the winning QB in 2 of the 4 post-season games in 1992. Kelly was 1-1 in the playoffs that season.

I took a shot at this about a month ago, used PFR AV rankings 1 Bruce Smith 2 Thurman Thomas 3 Jim Kelly 4 Andre Reed 5 Josh Allen 6 Kent Hull 7 O.J. Simpson 8 Kyle Williams 9 Joe Ferguson 10 Fred Smerlas 11 Mike Stratton 12 Jim Ritcher 13 Cornelius Bennett 14 Eric Moulds 15 Darryl Talley Looks pretty solid to me. I was a big Cookie fan, but he didn't play in the NFL long enough. Sestak's knees gave out or he would be high on this list.

I always think of the kicker, punter, and long snapper as 51,52,53. The bottom of the roster I think of as 46-50, that's where the coaching staff has their heated discussions on ST and emergency [e.g. multiple in game injuries] needs. Some of those 5 are vets and some of them are rookies, [e.g. Buffalo Joe last season].

We have a solid O-line for now to protect the franchise [JA17], I suspect the DL will be a work in progress this year.

He's 30 pounds bigger and faster than our linebackers. Not sure we've addressed that.

Bills best tight ends in history using PFR AV have been Dawson Knox, Paul Costa [who was converted to a tackle] Jay Reimersma & Pete Metzelaars, none in Kelce's class.

I would be surprised if all five of the starters on the O-Line weren't there, they are Josh's bodyguards.

Would the better move have been to draft Justin Jefferson with that pick and created arguably one of the Legendary QB/WR1 pairs in history with JA 17 and JJ 18. Looking back is always what coulda shoulda.