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2009 Bills: If our head coach starts out 0-5, just hope that he doesn't go 0-6...

2009 Bills: Keeping you occupied until hockey season starts! 2009 Bills: Payin' em with what's left of your sanity. 2009 Bills: Our suicide hotline number is printed in bold on the back of every ticket we sell.

"If there is any attempt for either contestant to cheat, especially with cmjoyce113, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, I am just gonna snap. Do I make myself clear?"

The truth lies somewhere in this thread. After 3 games the Bills will be 0-3, 1-2, 2-1, or 3-0 and DJ will be coaching the team or he will be fired. At this point I've dropped the unrealistic expectation that this is a playoffs or bust season for DJ and the Bills (which happened to coincide with the unofficial confirmation that the team is heavily rebuilding this season effective 10 days before the start of the season.) With lowered expectations I am free to enjoy the season without frustration, and might just be pleasantly surprised by the outcome. They might just look like a team by the end of this year, who knows. By doing all of this now, hopefully they identify a few glaring needs for the offseason while seeing if the young guys can play.

Hey, don't they do that in arena league football? I think that would be funny as hell to see our man in motion essentially getting a ten yard headstart to build up speed. Can't be any less effective than the last 6 regular season games, or all of preseason.

I initially thought DJ firing Schonert was done out of desperation in an effort to keep his job. Given the fact that he then appointed AVP to OC, cut LW and intends to go with Bell at LT, I'm now wondering if he didn't get some sort of assurance from RW regarding his job security. These just don't seem like the kind of "win now" moves someone would be making if their ass was on the line.

After the firing of Schonert I was of the opinion that Jauron was making a desperate move to save his job. Cutting Walker, promoting AVP, and the apparent expansion of the youth movement in giving the LT spot to Bell has me concerned. Has anyone else started getting the uneasy feeling that Jauron may have gotten some assurances with regard to the security of his job? You can't possibly make these moves when your ass is on the line, can you?

B(ill)B(elichick*) Fan 4LIFE, you have outed yourself. No true Bills fan could wish for the embarrassment of the team they root for, because, regardless of what you think of the FO, coaches, or players, deep down you want them to succeed because when you invest your time and emotion in a team it HURTS when they don't. Outwardly rooting against them should enrage true fans. You're that A@#HOLE in the stands that harps on one player, or one call, or one WHATEVER and ruins the game for the rest of us. I have no delusions of where the team is headed this year, but MAN am I hoping they surprise me. I can tolerate when people get down on moves that seemingly make no sense from the fans perspective, or when players are stinkin' up the joint, or when coaches don't seem to have a clue. And I have loudly bemoaned moves I thought they should have or shouldn't have made. I hope for the best with this team despite frequently expecting the worst. You or anyone else who actually calls themself a Bills fan and then has the audacity to publicly hope for them to spectacularly fail can PISS OFF!

Turftoe, no offense, but is your avatar droppin' a deuce? (my bad if that's a personal photo, or family, or something)

Miami 'til Marino retired... NE* likely 'til all their fans are dead (too harsh?)... anyone that the boys at ESPN knobpolish for more than 5 minutes.

Do you think he grew his hair out so that it looks like he still has a head?

As far as LT, I think the coaches were high on Bell, so why bring in another LT when you could use the pick somewhere else on the line. It doesn't help us this year, necessarily, but neither would drafting one of the first or second round LTs. They would likely start the year at RT, anyway, and we would still have Walker at LT. Granted, if Bell doesn't turn out to be the player they think he is they will still need to shore up the position, but the draft is just as much of a crap shoot.

Until they get this franchise straightened out, does it really matter what young QB we bring in to stunt his development? As other posters have pointed out on different threads, you need look no further than Steve Young in Tampa during the Bay of Pigs years versus Steve Young in SF, or Brett Favre in Atlanta versus Green Bay. I'm not saying our castoffs are potential HOFers, just not likely as bad as they seemed at the time. Situation is everything unless you are supremely talented.

Not sayin' he'd be my first choice to blow it all up and start from scratch, more that given the players at hand he might be able to to more with it sooner as they fit a similar philosophy. Indy's not a bad model, though I'm not certain he could attain near the same success without Manning.

It may be your favorite, but don't take it out of context as he goes on to say, rightly so, that "Schonert's case is different because it sounds mostly like he and Jauron couldn't agree on Jauron's offense, and that last adjective is the key. "Jauron's." This isn't even a matter of who knows more about offense, because we assume Schonert is the better versed of the two. It's about who has the say, and in no NFL operation, not even in Dallas, do the assistants dictate terms to the head coach." This is also why I think that it was DJ's call on the firing, and not RW as some seem to think. Edit: Slow typer, AJ1 beat me to it!

Honestly, I don't think it was Ralph's decision. I think DJ weighed his options which were 1) go into the season with TS as OC and almost unquestionably lose your job by week 5 OR 2) fire TS (who by his own admission had significant philisophical differences with DJ) and take your chances with AVP, and still likely lose your job. This move reeks of desperation. RW is known to have wanted it at the end of last season. But from RW's standpoint, the timing makes even less sense. It would be like sabotaging the team you own on the eve of the season. On top of that, TS goes on record ripping DJ after the firing. Then Ralph flies them all to MI to talk about it afterward. Seems more likely to me that this meeting was RW getting everyone in a room and asking WTF are you doing to my team... not something he would have to do if it was him making the call. Take a look at this article and see if you think DJ didn't have reason to make this move on his own: http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/12171445

Also, with regard to AVP and Schonert, from what's being reported personality-wise they couldn't be more different. Chris Collinsworth, who's friends with TS, even went so far as to suggest that noone has a bigger ego. That really doesn't fit with the idea that he craved other people's input. AVP, on the other hand, seems like he really just wants things to work. Hearing him on the radio and in the booth he always seemed very self-depricating and affable, but also bursting with enthusiasm for the game. Like I've stated in other posts, I just hope he has the time to succeed. As far as the QB coach, they'll have to address that before TE gets hurt if this is going to work. Besides just gameday they're going to need to have someone work with him besides AVP, otherwise where is AVP going to find the time to put together the gameplan (versus are we really just going to let our struggling young QB dangle in the breeze while his QB coach works on the gameplan.) They're going to at least need an assistant QB coach or something. Let's just hope that they address this sooner rather than later. Edit: Timely little piece of journalism; http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/12171445

I don't know if he's still interested in coaching, but I wouldn't mind seeing Dungy here. He's not the fire and brimstone type of coach that fans are clamoring for, but he can get animated when he needs to. He'll treat the players with respect, and tends to get the best out of them. It was his team that Gruden won the SB with. We have been building this team toward a similar philosophy that they employ in Indy, and if we have been at all successful it would mean we wouldn't have to overhaul the entire roster to run the type of schemes he's familiar with, both offensively and defensively, as he is the person responsible for the Tampa 2 if memory serves. Just a thought.

What a trash, out of context article. AVP was asked if he was nervous, and he said of course he was, but was also excited about the opportunity. This is what he was hoping for (the chance to be an OC, not the circumstances leading up to it) and it comes on MNF with little preparation. I'd be nervous, too. On top of that this schlub claims with a definitive voice that Ralph ordered the firing, and acts as though he has some pipeline into OBD that our local media doesn't. Finally, he states that the Bills are in disarray like it's a revelation. Cover your own team, likely poorly, and leave ours alone, douchebag.

In the long run, it doesn't likely matter. In the short term, if Wilson made the call, then he is ready to accept the consequences of making the call and will likely tolerate an adjustment period by the offense. If DJ made the call, Wilson likely told him "its your a$$" if this doesn't work, and he's shown the door by week 4-5 if the offense flounders, especially since RW pushed for this very move when it should have been made.

Classic!

I didn't actually forget to mention that. I glossed over it, and referred to it as a joke. I don't personally feel there was a conspiracy theory or any such nonsense. I do feel that it was an anomaly. Every year there are players in the pro bowl who don't seem to merit it based on the season they just had, but instead are included based on past achievements or name recognition. I would include last year's pro bowl nod to Peters in that category. Hard to justify including the left tackle from one of the worst offenses in the game when he had a subpar year, in my opinion. Also, you can't seriously believe that he played as well as he did the year before. As far as ending his holdout in time to play in 15 of 16 games, great... he was under contract for all 16, and just because he was present doesn't mean he played well. If he intended to play football that season, he could have at least kept himself in shape. We've all seen elite professionals hold out, sometimes skipping an entire camp, and not have it affect their game in the least. Bruce used to do it annually. I personally feel that the truth of the situation lies in your post, and that is Peters "plain not wanting to continue playing for Buffalo" even at the start of the contract "non"negotiation. It just has that feel to me, and maybe that is why I harbor the ill will. I've seen free agents leave for more money and I don't typically despise them for it, I chalk it up to free agency. As I said in my last post, the hostage tactics really put me off. As far as the future of the line, my biggest annoyance is that after asking McNally to make chicken soup out of chickens#@t for years, they finally invest some high draft picks in it after he's gone. Nothing like bringing in the students once the teacher has retired. If Bell does turn out to be a pro bowl left tackle, I hope he wants to stay, pray that he doesn't hire Eugene Parker, and would like to think that the FO will lock him up early before the bulls#$t starts. I don't know about you, but my arm is tired and this horse looks like glue.

Counter trey to Thurman... then he'll look out to the field and vomit like Stan from South Park does when he sees Wendy.

I didn't realize that... gotta love it... the female reporter's name wasn't "major" was it? Did she follow it up with a question about who the starting quarterback would be?

Sweet... can we turn this whole thing into a Jo Momma jokes thread? Jo mama's so ugly, her birth certificate was an apology letter from the condom factory.