Utah John

Why are people on this board so nasty? Calling something ridiculous is simply over the top.

Who knows how good Jones, Waller, and the rest of the Giants' offense skill position players are. Without an O line the entire offense is helpless. Maybe Shoen was counting on picking up a few of the Bills' castoff O linemen. Stafford was available...

Fitz didn't waste his time at Harvard. He's probably the smartest QB of his generation. He's articulate, charming, and down to earth. I remember reading that when he was living in the Buffalo area, he used to mow his own lawn. Now there might be other players who do that, but I'm doubting many people making QB money do. I wish he had a little more talent. He had a Brett Favre attacking style but not Favre's arm. With a little more throwing ability he could have been HOF worthy. As it was he was a journeyman who the really good teams wouldn't hire, so he settled for making mediocre teams better.

Hill didn't suddenly get faster. The Chargers D simply wasn't prepared for him. Which is odd because the Chargers used to face Hill twice a year, so they should have had a clue about how to stop him. Tua on balance had a very good game, but mostly he hit wide open receivers who ran for huge YAC. Any NFL QB could have completed those throws. He gets credit for completing the passes he did, but it was Hill's good play and the Chargers' lousy D that made Tua look good.

Interesting that this picks the Brown to win their division, with the Bengals and Ravens in as WCs.

My Lifelong Obsession With the Worst Team in the NFL - The Atlantic https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/detroit-lions-nfl-football-fan-defeat/675220/ Boy, when I was reading this, I kept thinking how it was just the same for Bills fans, but probably even worse, although the Bills never lost all their games in any season. The Bills have had five islands of competence in an ocean of muck -- the mid 60s AFL champs, the 73-75 Saban v.2 plus OJ years (more like a shoal than an island since they made the playoffs only once and lost that game), the Chuck Knox years, the great mountain of success and sadness in the early 90s, and now. Maybe 20 years, tops, of good play out of 62 or 63 years on the field. The Lions had the Packers who owned them. The 60s Bills had the Chiefs, the 70s Bills had the Dolphins, the 70s Bills had the Steelers, and the late 90s-early 2000s had the Patriots. Always a really dominant team that happened to be there whenever the Bills put together a decent team. The current team has played about even with their nemesis, the Chiefs, in the regular season, but hasn't broken through in the playoffs (yet?). The great writing in this article brought back memories. Alberta was glued to the TV during the draft the day his son was born. On the day our daughter was born, I was glued to the TV watching the Bills play the Dolphins, beating them to clinch the AFC East. Both of us report our wives being irked by this. I will say this about all the losing seasons. They do make the winning sweet. But then again I'd guess the Patriot fans felt pretty sweet about winning and winning and winning, over and over. They say hitting yourself in the head with a hammer makes you feel better when you stop, but I think never getting hit in the head in the first place is the way to go. Go Bills! THIS season is the "next year" as in "we'll get there next year."

He made more than $11M over the course of his career, which ended nearly 10 years ago (back when $11M was a lot of money 😜). He was a big strong man who could certainly manage working in construction, and if that's the path his life took, he apparently made the best of it. The news stories about his death started with a report from a Buffalo TV station, as far as I can tell, but I haven't seen anything that says specifically where the accident occurred that led to his death. Was it somewhere in the Buffalo area?

There you go. He's the reason they called it the K-Gun offense.

The great 90s team was built before free agency, and then held together during the early stages of FA (remember Plan B?), by the genius of Bill Polian. Polian couldn't do it today. He couldn't have kept Kelly, Thomas, Reed, Smith, Bennett, Hull and Talley together year after year, let alone the dozen or so A-listers who are overlooked now by the roster of truly great players. The only way to get a really good roster together is to do what Beane did in his early days, bite the bullet and clear out the salary cap deadwood, and then rebuild using a detailed knowledge of the quality of unvalued veterans (Poyer, Hyde). The only way to KEEP the good roster strong is to draft really well, and in that Beane has not held up his end. The Bills should already have the other superstars on the roster that the OP wants them to have. Instead we have Boogie Basham's empty locker, Epensesa on the way out, Elam buried on the depth chart, Oliver over-rated by a mile, Edmunds playing elsewhere so we could afford to keep Oliver, Wyatt Teller gone, two of our draft picks this year gone, the backup QBs we drafted gone, etc etc etc.

This is all wrong. Tight ends LAST names start with K. Knox, Kincaid, Kelce, Kittle.

Yeah, you could say it ended a little differently. 0-31 Pats beat the Bils by the mirror score.

Yes, the Bills were statistically better than the Jets. The Bills lost Edmunds but add Micah Hyde and healthy Tre White and Jordan Poyer, plus their DTs look more stout, and shipping off Basham was addition by subtraction. And we'll see what Leonard Floyd has left, and in a month or so we add in Von Miller. But the Bills played Frazier's soft Tampa 2 D, and that let good QBs march down the field on them. The D didn't scare anyone. I'm hoping McD's D is more attacking and unpredictable. As for the Jets, they've been building a very strong D line, they have Sauce Gardner in the back, and their MLB always gives the Bills fits. Bottom line, on paper I don't know which set of players I'd choose. Both are good. If the Jets have an edge, it's in the coaches, where Saleh has done well and we don't know yet how McD will do.

This is all going to come down to which O line is less bad against the opponent's strong D line. I think our O line is somewhat better than the Jets' but the Jets D line is better than ours. Rodgers is mobile in avoiding the pass rush, and he's been a good runner in the past, but I don't think that's his game anymore. Josh will be Josh, hard to contain and a dangerous running threat. Overall I think we have the edge but it's going to be close. Could be the Bills best D is a strong D line, 6 DBs with Rapp playing the large safety usually close to the LOS, and 1 LB (Milano). This puts the green dot on someone's helmet who's not used to having it. But still against a weak O line the Bills strengths are anywhere except MLB.

I'm not going to read through pages of people flaming the OP for this, but I think there's a real point to be made here. Things DO NOT ADD UP. And yet the hero worship of Josh Allen, an excellent QB, will prevent people from acknowledging or even considering whether part of the blame for the Bills' failures the past few years are at his feet. Not all, for sure. The 13 second game was not his fault, it was on the coaches, but even in that game the Bills' offense sputtered in the early going, and caught fire late only after the KC defense got tired. (As did the Bills defense.) The Bills won 13 games last year and really could/should have beaten the Dolphins and Vikings, but don't forget they probably should have lost to the Ravens. The KC offense is almost always ON. Mahomes knows. He knows where the weak points are because he works hard to find them during the week. Allen plays with more spontaneity but that fails more often than Mahomes does. Allen does not have to be this way. He could choose to buckle down and prepare as hard as other top QBs do. Allen's teammates now see him not putting in that effort, and follow the leader. It would be better if he DID put in the effort, and then have the teammates follow THAT. Flame away, Allenites. I'm pointing out what many people not connected to the Bills see.

This was exactly the argument back in the 60s or 70s that forced the NFL to allow home games to be televised in the home market, if sold out 72 hours in advance. The public pays for so much related to the operation of the team that it's wrong to put restrictions on viewing. Of course now the home market can still see home games, but there are so many fans of most teams spread around the country that being a Bills fan should allow a person to get all the Bills games for a reasonable cost on a single streaming service. For this, I'd say NFL Sunday Ticket qualifies. But games on days other than Sundays should also be available, without a separate service or subscription. It's time to rattle Congress's cage about this. And I'll bet if Taylor Swift wanted to buy an NFL franchise, all the other owners (at least all the men) would be happy to let that happen.

Well this sounds great but I can't figure out how to select the Bills. I've looked around in the library and home pages and others and I can't find any place where I can identify the Bills as the team I want to watch. Is this something I should be able to do anytime, or only when they're getting ready to show a game? Appreciate the help.

There's almost exactly zero information in this clip that most Bills or Jets fans didn't already know. It's going to be a tough game either way.

You can't set up the taping schedule days ahead and count on the games being recorded. At least that's what the YouTube representative I called for assistance, told me. She said they've had other complaints about it and were working on it. Well, shoot, if they knew a year in advance that they'd have this business, why are they just getting to this now? I get it. The money we pay for streaming games goes toward the billionaire owners and the millionaire players. Without those TV contracts, there'd be billionaire owners and very wealthy but mostly not millionaire players. Is it all worth that?

Reading all these comments makes me wonder if people realize how badly we've been screwed by the NFL. Look how hard it is to see all the games! Look how many services you need to buy! And reliability goes out the window if a contract dispute you have nothing to do with gets a channel or network pulled off the air. We live in Memphis now and haven't had any CBS coverage for weeks via cable (DirecTV). Not just football, no CBS at all. This year we need YouTube to get Sunday Ticket, but the functionality we used to have is not all there. The hassles and the costs keep going up, and the availability and service keep getting worse.

It's great we have two very good TEs. A 22 formation would be very hard to defend against, with one of the RBs and one of the TEs a very skilled receiver. Lining up as a 22 puts a lot of strength into the running game and with our personnel leaves a very dynamic passing attack.

He played in the last two SBs, against Dallas, in his first two years, and then played eight more years with the Bills before moving to the Arizona Cardinals. He was drafted to shore up an aging O line, and he did a good job, not HOF or even WOF-worthy, but still good.

All these captains are talented, dedicated, hard-working, elite or near-elite. The Bills are trying to promote a core group of leaders to solidify the roster's will to fight. I think this goes back to the playoff loss to the Bengals, where for whatever reason the team came out flat and never recovered. The brass is trying various things to keep the team motivated through the postseason. The risk is that factions will coalesce around various players, and instead of unifying the team, there could be pockets of guys talking only to each other. I hope this works out and the team stays completely unified, while each captain seeks out and destroys slackerhood and defeatism.

There was talk recently that the Bills would lose the 3rd round draft pick for losing Edmunds in FA, if Keenum was cut by the Texans. He (and also Davis Mills) made the Texans' 53 as backups to C.J. Stroud. Does anyone know if that locks up the 3rd round pick for the Bills?

Probably not. The Jets D line is already top notch all across the board. They have other needs.

The Dolphins have serious over-the-cap problems now, with worse ones to come next year. They're trying to do what Beane is trying to do, construct a roster than gets strong and stays strong, year after year. They're facing the same restrictions Beane is facing but haven't had the same success Beane has had.