Utah John
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The Chiefs do do some things that help them win, particularly in close, tense games. But yelling at each other is not part of the winning formula.
What IS in the formula is applying pressure in key points at key locations, to get a critical edge when it matters. Against the Bills AND the 49ers, Chris Jones was freed up to attack Allen and Purdy at a critical point near the end of the game. Both times he prevented the QB from hitting an open receiver and probably winning the game. The Chiefs also put pressure on defenses through their attacking style, and that paralyzes the defenses from being able to attack the Chiefs' offense.
It always turns into a lions vs gazelles situation, where the Chiefs' opponents always feel like they're going to get eaten, any moment now, and then it happens. The way to beat the Chiefs is to avoid getting into a tight game where a key play here or there makes the difference. The Bills and the 49ers both had chances to take big leads in the first half, but the Chiefs play an elastic game where even when their offense isn't doing much early in the game, and the other team is dominating, you look up at the scoreboard at the end of the half and you're only up by a few points. At that point, the lions are coming out, and all the gazelles know it.
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If you want to know what kind of Jets this team is, I looked it up. It's a Boeing 737-9 Max. And we all know where the loose bolts are, Woody. Your Jets are grounded UFN.
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The Bills were on national TV all season long, and fans got to see Josh play many times. Unfortunately while he did play very well WB (with Brady), it's the stinkers he had DD (during Dorsey) that people will remember. Josh really played below his standards against the Jets in the opener, against the Jags in London, against the Pats in that inexcusable loss, and against the Broncos in the 12-men game. The only time the Bills lost when he played well was the OT game against the Eagles. The four losses were not completely attributable to Josh's poor play, but it's natural to point to those four games. Almost a quarter of the season. I don't think Josh's great play in the other 13 games makes up for those four.
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On 2/3/2024 at 6:37 PM, FireChans said:
I’m slowly getting more and more convinced this is the kind of old good player that Beane will go after. Especially with Brady’s emphasis on the run and McD being a defensive guy. A pound the rock for 3 YPC guy just feels right.
So what do we think?
For the vet minimum, sure. Let's see what he's got left. But some team will offer him millions and the Bills won't compete for him.
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3 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:
You’d like it to be harder?It's kinda short...
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18 hours ago, Don Otreply said:
For New England…
Well, if New England had been able to use all those extra picks, they'd be unbeatable. Fortunately they had a fairly incompetent GM.
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12 hours ago, Buffalo Super Fan said:
For me as a Buffalo Bills fan was the Bills Toronto Series and the reaction by our local politicians, business community sucking up to the Bills Ralph Wilson. Once that happened I realized it is never going to happen for Western New York economically. Some leaders willingly offering half the Bills schedule to Toronto. I knew then this Western New York areas leaders are clueless. You never give up what you already have that is a position of weakness which is what our leadership is in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo
One fan's reaction was that this was like consenting to your wife sleeping around as a condition of staying married.
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5 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:
9 turnovers is insane; how is that even possible?
I haven’t seen that game since it aired (for obvious reasons), but now am curious to go back and watch it.
(I do remember one of the SB’s against Dallas, we were up at halftime!).
The one where the Bills were up at halftime was the next year, the fourth SB loss. The Bills were positioned to win but a crucial fumble early in the second half was returned by Dallas for a TD, and the Bills never got over that punch to the gut. Interesting that the OP thought the Bills should have fired Levy after the third SB, when it was Levy who got them back to the game and in position to win.
If there was a worse outcome for the Bills, it was the first SB they lost, when it was clear the players were hung over, unable to tackle. And when the Giants DC, Bill Belichick, had his defense positioned to stop the pass, leaving Thurman Thomas ready to destroy them. But Jim Kelly wanted to be the hero so instead of feeding Thurman, he kept trying to pass. The Bills couldn't keep the ball on offense, and the hungover defenders couldn't stop the Giants. THAT was embarrassing and disappointing. THAT was the first year the Bills should have won the SB but the players did not respect their opportunity. The second year the Bills really should have won the SB was just a couple of years ago, when a game lasted 13 seconds long enough for McDermott to get completely outcoached by his former boss.
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52 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:
The thing Polian did correctly,was replace a mentally devastated kicker immediately. Hopefully Beane and Co realize Bass, as great a kid as he is, may be shot. You cannot allow a kicker to compromise a good team’s accomplishments. It’s demoralizing.
Norwood kicked for the Bills the next year after the wide right miss.
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7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
I feel a bit for Greg. I think he has got better each year he has been on the job. He was certainly an upgrade on Troy Aikman. But there was just always something about him that didn't seem to carry the gavitas of a big network #1 color guy.
I have no idea how Brady will be. Greg should go to Prime and do the Thursday Night gig. Because my word Kirb is unlistenable.
Well sure, I feel for Greg, but I also feel for me and everyone else who thinks he's done a great job. He's as good as Romo was in his first couple of years, before the change happened and he became no more insightful that a knowledgeable civilian.
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5 hours ago, Gregg said:
Happy Birthday Andre. Speaking of Andre I wonder if the Bills will retire his number just like they did for Jim, Bruce, and Thurman. I always thought the core of four from those Super Bowl teams was 12,34,78,83.
My question to Bills fans back in the day was, what's 12345678? Answer: Jim Kelly, Thurman Thomas, Darryl Talley, and Bruce Smith standing together on the sidelines.
Reed was definitely a great part of those great teams. Happy birthday.
6 hours ago, Spiderweb said:Reed and Diggs together? What a pair that would have been....
The Bills had Reed and Eric Moulds at the same time. They were both on the team that got screwed in the Music City Miracle. Or that failed to properly cover a kickoff, if you prefer.
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Beane built a very strong roster with a sprinkling of top end talent, a few years ago. He had very firm rules about not blowing the cap budget with overpriced FAs. Then McD choked in the 13 second game and the excuse was we needed a closer to shut down Mahomes. So Beane shatters his own rule by spending huge dollars on Von Miller. Who did great for half a season, and since then has contributed nothing except taking a spot on the game roster.
Keeping a talented roster together is like one of those old magicians who had plates spinning on sticks, and he had to move around keeping them all spinning or they'd fall and break. The more big contracts, the fewer plates keep spinning. The only way to keep the plates spinning is to draft well consistently, bringing in cheap young guys to replace 4-5 year vets who move on to their big contract opportunities.
A few years ago the WR room was amazing, with Diggs, Davis, Smoke, Sanders, and Beasley. Then several players got old and left and Beane signed a big contract with Diggs when he was at the top of his value curve, and now we're paying for a declining Diggs, a no-show Miller, and Allen, who's doing his best with what's left.
The drafting has been below standard, except for this past year when we got several excellent players. All the defensive linemen picked and only Oliver out of all the draftees is far above average. Epenesa, Basham, Rousseau -- Rousseau looks like he might be a decent player, and Epenesa is good against the run but we still don't have the pass rush we need. It's not just that those guys aren't producing, it's that they were wasted picks that aren't players filling other positions on rookie contracts.
A couple of bad mistakes on FAs and several poor choices on high draft picks are the same as turnovers in a game. You can still win but the odds go against you. And when a coach chokes in a 13 second game and gets the GM to bail him out, everything unravels from there.
So you ask, where's the talent? Sitting in Miller's bank account, and Diggs's bling. It's very fitting that the two of them did that commercial where they're walking in gold leather outfits and hats.
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Well THAT'S certainly going to get him activated for the Super Bowl.
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17 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:
https://www.si.com/nfl/broncos/news/tua-tagovailoa-broncos-dolphins-trade-proposal-mock
Broncos get: Tua Tagovailoa, No. 137 pick
• Dolphins get: Justin Fields, No. 81 pick, Broncos 2025 second-round pick
• Bears get: No. 182 pick, Dolphins 2025 third-round pick, Broncos 2025 sixth-round pick
If that trade happens it's a good deal for all teams.
That's not much of a return for the Bears, who saw Fields really developing in the second half of this past season. I think you're assuming the Bears will draft a new QB with their #1 pick, and that might happen, but there's a lot of uncertainty about what the Bears will do. If they do decide to part ways with Fields, I think they can get quite a bit more for him in a 2-team trade with some team desperate for a QB.
And I think that's slanted in the Dolphins favor. A starting QB plus a third plus a second? That's a lot of return for a QB that can't compete in the cold. Which Denver is, of course. Tua is in exactly the best available position for him. He's an accurate passer with good receiving weapons. If the Dolphins can upgrade/repair their O line, Tua will do OK where he is. No other team has the ideal environment for his skills and his limitations.
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4 hours ago, Don Otreply said:
I have no issues with him “competing” for a spot on the team, but if he doesn’t trust his knee repair and isn’t up to it performance wise he needs to be let go, jmo.
Sure, of course. If the rehab isn't successful completely and he can't do what got him into the league anymore, he's gone, unfortunately for everyone. But that's the case for everyone. If they can't do the job, someone else who can is waiting for the slot.
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21 hours ago, Dubie54 said:
Ute fan as well and I like Bishop a lot but I don't see him making it to the 3rd round. He is an incredibly smart player in the same mold as Bernard, always around the ball and has great instincts.
Yeah, that was my point, he's probably going in the second round.
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18 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:
He was ok on special teams when they bought him in midway through 2022 … we dont know how he would go on O because they never gave him a chance …just another player they didn’t trust because he “hadn’t learnt the system “..Interesting point. He's been working on his rehab. Has he been doing that in Buffalo so he could attend team meetings and "learn the system"?
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10 hours ago, TheBrownBear said:
He's clearly too conservative and careful with the ball for us to take the next step.
Yeah, just like Tyrod Taylor. Josh needs to learn to be confident enough to throw his receivers open.
/s of course
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It doesn't sound like Miami wanted him gone. It sounds like it wanted to get onto the Eagles staff and Miami let him go.
He's a good DC and Philly will be happy they got him to help turn thilngs around. In Miami, whoever is the new guy will benefit from all the injured players on D returning.
1 hour ago, Einstein said:You seem to be under the impression that 1 game makes a coaching career.
Name a coach in NFL history that hasn’t been pummeled in a game numerous times.
Well, how about Sean McDermott, at least as a head coach. I can't remember the last time the Bills got really shellacked.
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Utah fan here. The Bills have drafted two Utes recently. Zach Moss has shown he's a good player when used in a scheme that works for him, but he didn't fit with the Bills. (We got Hines for him, remember, and we should be getting him back next year, as far as I know.) And of course DK2 who has all the skills and great attitude needed to be a star. A lot goes to the coaching staff at Utah, that works with players to prepare them for the NFL.
Cole Bishop would absolutely be a good pick for the Bills. I don't know if he'll be around in the third round, and I don't think he's the first round big deal star we need, but in the second round, sure. As for that the Bills not-quite-stellar record will help their draft position a little but it will still be failry late.
I've been thinking the Bills' greatest need in the draft is at safety, but with the likely departure of Davis and the weird problems with Diggs, I'm now thinking WR is what the Bills should do in the first round.
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On 1/22/2024 at 7:23 PM, Einstein said:
The Chiefs doubled Jones on 71% of his pass rush attempts. They were clearly concerned about him.
Josh made the right decision. Endzone to an open player was the right decision.
We'll just have to disagree about that.
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Hyde made the most incredible defensive play I have ever seen in a playoff game against the Patriots, when he zoome across the field to intercept a sure TD pass on a wimpy rainbow from Mac Jones. He took the ball almost out of the receiver's hands, preventing a TD, and convincing the Pats on a very cold night that they stood no chance in that game. It wasn't long before every Patriot on the field was looking longingly at the bench, where the heaters and parkas were. The Bills scored TDs on every single possession except a halftime kneeldown, and Hyde's interception early in the game was the dagger.
I'm pretty sure that year was the last winning season for Belichick in New England, and that loss, spurred by the Hyde interception, was what tipped them over into irrelevancy.
All that and a great person as well. If the Hydes leave Buffalo, we'll wish them well, but we'll really wish they weren't leaving at all.
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24 minutes ago, NewEra said:
I know
The Bills will miss his downfield blocking, but he's replaceable as a pass catcher.
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3 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:
So, team has a young QB and goes out and gets an offensive minded HC. Good step in the right direction.
The Titans do have a young QB. The question is whether they have a good-enough young QB. It looks like they're hitching their wagon to Levis but it's not clear he's going to pan out. (Of course people said the same thing about Josh Allen, so who knows.)
Just now, RyanC883 said:likely. But I want Tee!
That would be ideal, but we can't afford him thanks to the contracts for Diggs and Miller.
10 minutes ago, jkeerie said:They better not try to go after Brady.
Is Brady under contract with the Bills? If so then I think all the Bills would need to do is remove the interim tag from his title.
So Spencer Brown what say you?
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The Bills organization has always been higher on Brown, and on Davis, than the fans were. I think them Bills saw Brown's potential and let him play through growing pains (and actual pains with his back) and now he's the player they were expecting to see. He's retainable if Beane jumps on the situation now.
Most fans aren't sad about the prospect of Davis getting paid by somewhere else, but based on what the professional football team in town thinks, his loss will hurt.
I think that's a bad move. There aren't a lot of really good RTs out there, and now that the Bills have developed one it makes better sense to put the ball in Brown's court about an extension. Brown knows as well as we all do that he's got an injury history which will make him less marketable next year. Beane should put a good solid offer on the table for a 4-5 year extension at a reasonable price, and let Brown try to decide whether to take the money and stay here long term, or to play out his rookie deal and hope for a bigger contract, risking not getting much at all if his back goes out or some other injury happens next year. The offer Beane will put down will make Brown a very rich man, and he might decide to take the bird in the hand, sign the offer, and put this position on solid ground for years.