CodeMonkey

Yes of course. But even in privately held businesses there are laws protecting employees.

Wild, and a bit insane in my opinion, stuff! This can't be legal, can it? I understand convicted, but just accused? What if this weekend a girl goes to his front door selling magazine subscriptions then files a police report that he raped her (assume for arguments sake that he did not). What then, suspended for the season and the Steelers fined a million dollars? Lunacy.

This is getting out of hand. A rumor about a team getting fined for something one of its players was accused (not convicted) of.

Lynch was convicted. Not to mention caught in the act.

With him directly? Probably most but I imagine some would back off. With the NFL? All advertisers would stay of course. Remember the Vick stuff at the beginning of last season? All of the "not on my team" stuff you read. Remember people thinking advertisers would drop off etc. Did it adversely affect anything? Not in the least little bit as far as I can tell. And Vick was convicted, not just accused. You honestly believe one player on one team in the NFL is going to be able to stop advertisers from wanting to reach out to all those couch potatoes watching the NFL Sunday afternoons and Monday nights? Not on your life. And even if by some quirk in the universe the people would stop watching games because of this, and advertisers dropped out in droves and the TV contracts dried up, do you think suspending said scumbag player for a couple games would change that? That is not the world we live in.

I would not be fired for simply being charged of a crime. I doubt you would either. Unless it was a crime against humanity like becoming a cheatriats fan. Then I would of course deserve it. Wow! That's even more open ended than the patriot act!!! So basically it is up to the whim of the commish. Nice. How does making money (which is the main value upon which the NFL is based) apply here?

I'm still confused as to why people think he could be, or should be, punished by the commish. Is he a scumbag? Maybe, don't know. Did he rape any or all of these girls? Maybe, don't know. Is he brain damaged for continuing to put himself in these situations? Definitely. But you simply cannot punish someone because maybe they did something wrong. No matter how disgusting the thing he may have done wrong is. Some choose to believe the accusers. Some choose to believe the accused. I choose to wait and let the court decide. It's the only thing that makes any sense to me. Imagine what this society would function like if every accusation was considered as fact immediately. If it does not make it to court (and yes, paying off the accuser if the act actually happened sucks in a situation like this) you have to treat that as if nothing happened. It is very simple. It really is.

Blow me.

You say that based on 2 words from one definition? How about these since you seem obsessed about "fan" coming from "fanatic": A person marked or motivated by an extreme, unreasoning enthusiasm, as for a cause. a person whose enthusiasm or zeal for something is extreme or beyond normal limits Informal a person devoted to a particular hobby or pastime; fan a jazz fanatic Or from a thesaurus: fanatic - a person motivated by irrational enthusiasm (as for a cause) enthusiast, partizan, partisan - an ardent and enthusiastic supporter of some person or activity As to the bolded part of your quote, give me a !@#$ing break and grow up.

How the Mighty Have Fallen A little tough to hear but I can't find any fault in what he says. But give them another 3 or 4 years and we will be right back in the hunt ... right?

Also A fan, sometimes also called aficionado or supporter, is a person with an intense, occasionally overwhelming liking and enthusiasm for something. Maybe the whiners as you call them have an intense, occasionally overwhelming dislike for the object of their fandom sucking balls the the last decade. You can be a fan and not follow blindly forever. Just sayin.

Was this the same night he said firing Gailey was a big mistake?

Hmmm "roethlisraper" sounds to me like he was on the receiving end.

My comment wasn't about getting in trouble, it was about Bradshaws comment about staying out of clubs his entire career.

I certainly can't argue with that!

I'm sure TB is correct. But that same logic could be applied to going anywhere, not just clubs. What's the guy supposed to do, sit at home and read (assuming he can read) for 14 years? Not terribly realistic. If you were young, rich, and famous, which would you choose?

If she was raped ... and that's all we can say right now ... then I'm sure everyone would detest him even more than Vick. I certainly would. But if she is bringing a false accusation .... and again, that's all we can say right now ... in order to get a payday then she is the scumbag. It is amazing to me how people can jump to illogical conclusions so quickly and believe one person they don't know over another person they don't know. If this was Lee Evans or Freddy Jackson instead of a non-Bill, would you be so quick to believe the girl?

By all accounts he is too good a lawyer to do that. But remember, in cases like these no matter who wins and who loses, the only people guaranteed to make money are all the lawyers. I like this line too: When do lawyers "investigate allegations"? That's the job of the police. Lawyers get involved when they smell money. I'm not saying he is not a scumbag rapist any more than I am saying that he is one. But if you want to see a guaranteed scumbag, look at the attorneys.

I don't believe I have ever demonized Vick or Lynch. But at least there was no doubt of their guilt. They were proven guilty and/or caught in the act. "Big Ben" was not ... at least not yet. Big difference there. But I wouldn't expect someone who makes a statement like is bolded above to recognize that. Just out of curiosity, how do you know he raped anyone?

I have no idea if he is guilty or not (and frankly I don't care) ... and neither do you. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Or did I miss the part about that not being the case for famous people.

Exactly. But I doubt even the NFL is that stupid. You want to talk about a lawsuit just begging to happen.

I love statements like this. It's as though every other team passed on this deal and the Jets were the last ones asked. What, if the Bills don't make a deal it has to suck? And how do you get "risk" out of giving up a 5th rounder? !@#$ing homers are laughable sometimes.

I'm impressed that it took 2 pages before that came out

Beastmode can't leave. He still owes me $20!

You have hit the nail on the head here. Once you understand and accept this basic fact, most of the moves (or lack thereof) by OBD will start to make sense to you. If you need proof of this being a fact, just look around here a little. There any many who openly state they will buy their season tickets, jerseys etc. as long as they are the Buffalo Bills.