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Good luck to you as well. Barnidge was hurt with a cheap shot, sorry about that.

Yes and so did my wife. She was grossed out.

I haven't read the article, I never read him. But it was by no means a "great win" like I am seeing in places. There were so many mistakes and flags on both teams it is difficult to ascertain exactly what was going on. The Bills offense was abysmal as has become the norm. The Bills defense was OK in the first half, and seemed to wake up in the second and play their normal tough game. The Browns defense was also OK in the first half, but their offense was abysmal ... and their defense decided to join the offense in the second half. Train wreck city. As a Bills fan it was very easy to sit back and enjoy the second half of that game. And any win is a good win, particularly in a "must win" game like that was. But looking at it from any kind of a neutral perspective it is impossible to call it a "great game", in my opinion at least. If the Bills play like that in 6 days from now, god help them. I mean, near the end of the game the Bills were 0 for 11 on 3rd down conversions I believe. Good god.

You guys kill me with these "win out" scenarios. If the Bills end up at 11-5 I will be betting on them pretty heavy to win the SB

Hmmmm i don't know. Getting non-Bills fans to put money on the Bills getting less than 9? I was thinking the number might actually go up a bit.

My fav part was the Bills fan giving the Johnny Football "money" gesture after the fumble

In today's NFL, in most cases you go as far as your QB takes you. That's my opinion. The Bills have a mediocre QB and will likely have a mediocre record.

On TV they showed Johnny Footballs face on the sideline when they overturned the call. He had his helmet off and set down somewhere. He had a shocked look then had to go get his helmet to go back onto the field. He clearly knew it was a fumble.

Factor in travel soccer at the high school and below levels. Plus do high schools have 50+ football rosters in some places? Not around me they don't. Can't get that nearly that many to play. But I could see it in the south, Texas for example I guess.

They almost have to make 8-8 now with the Raiders still on the schedule. In fact, I think that's the most likely outcome.

Hmmm not so sure that's true anymore. But as far women's soccer, a coach explained that to me one time and I've seen it to be true. If you see two men go for 50/50 ball, most of the time if one of the players has a slight edge, the other player will back off. But in the women's game, that generally won't happen and they are far more likely to bang their heads together than men are, and this is the main reason for concussions in soccer and is true in high school as well as college.

Yeah that is hard to fathom. Particularly when the the ex-official on CBS emphatically stated that the call on the field was correct. I'd love to hear the official explanation for that overturn, but we never will. Maybe the answer is to do what hockey does and have reviews for all games done by the NFL at a central location. Take it out of the one guys hands altogether.

Yeah I have a hard time figuring out their playoff odds. The page you referenced shows 14.3% but at the top of the Bills primary page (http://www.sportsclu...st/Buffalo.html) shows their current playoff odds at 13.4%. They seem to be calculating the chances 2 different ways. And if you look lower on the Bills primary page you see that their 2 most likely outcomes for the remainder of the season are (record = Chance of playoffs) 2-2 = 0.3% 1-3 = 0% 13.4% and 14.3 % both seem like over the top optimistic chances considering that the Bills play Denver, GB, and NE* in 3 of the remaining 4 games. I am not getting how Sports Club Stats is calculating their playoff percentages at all. I read their description and they say they weight the statistically better and the home team higher in their simulations. But I think their weighting may be a bit off in this case

Yes it was very clear in the replay. Wouldn't be surprised if his wallet was a bit lighter this week. There are enough injuries in the game without cheap shots.

Bradham speared a player in the ribs earlier in the game that took him out as well.

Yeah this for sure. Denver opened up as a 10 point favorite. This game is seen I'm sure by most as a Denver blowout win.

No. What makes it compelling to people is the level of violence and players flying at each other with reckless abandon. If you take the intensity of the violence away from the game there isn't enough left to interest people. You can see it already with the complaining with the current "pussification" of the game.

Even with most analysis like my favorite (http://fivethirtyeig...d-playoff-odds/) giving the Bills about a 3% chance or so of making the playoffs, there are Bills fans here talking about week 17 deciding it Gotta love ya

There are already a lot of Browns fans that live in the area. Families were Browns fans before the Bills existed and carried on. I have no idea how many will be there Sunday. I suppose that would depend upon how many Bills seasons holders put them up for sale.

Lets face it, the Bills are not going to the playoffs this season without divine intervention. But unless the Pegulas hire a consultant that can find a coach better than Marrone who would take the job, Marrone stays. I mean look at it this way, would a promising coach want to go to a team that fired the last guy after 2 seasons, when the team showed considerable improvement, and still did not have a solid starting QB and no 1st round draft pick? Doubtful.

Comments added above. I see nothing here worthy of impeachment above except for clock management which he surely sucks at.

Hard to disagree. I see them most likely at 8-8 when it is all said and done. Beat the Browns (though by no means is it a walkover like the Jets) and the Raiders and lose the others. Average.

No. Show me the money baby. But with all the Browns fans in the area, plus their local fans travel well, I have to believe that it will sell out.

Nate Silvers Elo Rating: Bills win, 59% chance. Elo point spread Bills -2.5 (http://fivethirtyeig...d-playoff-odds/) Chance of making the playoffs: 3% CBS With Spread (Bills -1.5): 6 take the Bills and 2 take the Browns CBS Straight Up: 6 plus the computer take the Bills and 2 take the Browns. (http://www.cbssports.../straight-up/13) ESPN: 11 and the computer take the Bills and 2 take the Browns. (http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks) Microsofts Cortana: Bills win, 56.6% chance (http://www.businessi...week-13-2014-11)

Eat a light lunch that day.