Big Daddy JC

*Tony Soprano voice* Chu talkin to ME?

B.O.?

I haven't heard any reports of sub standard coaching by the O line staff.

I don't think the Steelers accept cut and run fans.

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"As I have said, so it is written and so it shall be." -The Gospel according to St. Jim of Kelly

The attention isn't too surprising since he has the uncoachables (big, fast and intelligent) everything else can be coached into him. Not getting drafted in the latter rounds is kind of odd until you realize how many "skill position" players were picked. I guess teams wanted to load up on "skill" players because so many wash out.

I don't dispute his talent but I believe his baggage is a larger downside that his talent is an upside. When starting with a 7-9 team, his talent has to gain the team 3-4 more than his baggage throws away. I don't want the worst to materialize but that is what I fear will happen.

I guess DazedandConfused had to go off and ponder the question...

Behold the curse of unintended cosequences.

Making change for the sake of change leads to the curse of unintended consequences. One must make a considered judgement of the effectiveness of the change and any side effects. For example, one doesn't have to actually have to swing the hammer to know holding the head of the nail with your thumb on top is a bad idea. True, the nail will definitely be securely held for the hammer to find its mark but the pain of a bloody swollen thumb is not worth it. Side effects are just as important as the intended effects. Be careful what you ask for, you may just get it.

TO's ego is exactly what will drive the locker room into chaos. Yes, TO wants to win but more importantly to him is that he get the glory for making it happen. He gets mad if he doesn't get his desired number of touches and the team looses but he also gets mad if the team wins without him being the central focus. His attention is not on the win or loss but how much credit he gets. He doesn't have the best intrest of the team in mind, he cares only that people notice how many plays he makes (and don't mention how many drops he has). It would be great if the Bills had a vocal leader to lead by example and hold other players accountable for the team's results. Unfortunately TO aint that guy. With TO it's all about TO. The team is only there to give him the forum to draw attention to himself.

Think Detroit and a locker room in full "blame everyone else" mode.

Do you REALLY want to ask that?

How do you know they were all models?

At least there were no dogs harmed in the running over of the officer, otherwise the anti-Vick'ers would be foaming at the mouth.

That's all I'm saying.

Is it not also blindly defeatist to declare him worthy only of PS status before the pads have ever been put on? I say let them work out the pecking order on their merits proven in live competition. BTW, you didn't answer my question of what do the Bills do if another team tries to sign him off the PS. If they decide he's worth keeping, what do they have to do?

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa. Time to get off your high horse there Pokey. You make it sound like I'm demanding a starting spot for him. I am simply saying that the rush to shove him to the PS because he's a UDFA is short sighted. They have these things in the NFL known as backup linemen to add depth to a position in case a starter gets injured. I am saying he should be given the chance to earn one of those spots in training camp before the PS chants start. If he went to the PS and BB did come sniffing around, the Bills would have to sign him to the active roster or lose him to a division rival. Now, if they decided to match the offer, where would they plug him in? Maybe as a backup lineman and special teamer (just where I suggested he would fit in). Don't trash the young man's character until you know more about him and don't dismiss his skills against NFL talent until you've seen him in action against NFL talent. Try basing your comments on knowledge rather than supposition.

I was talking about your quotation from the NFL regs regarding associating with gamblers. It makes no distinction between gamblers betting on legal or illegal contests.

My point exactly. Imagine how intense the competition should be during camp if everybody knew they were 1 loaf off day away from waivers.

Can you show me where in the parts you quoted it differentiates between legal and illegal?

They also have the running of the bulls in Pamplona proving that turn about is fair play. Now that's civilization.

Well said. What is the use of punishment if the punished is never allowed to prove they have been rehabilitated by the experience?

Is this another form of Rock, Paper, Scissors?