Big Daddy JC

Here's another enlightening article on T.O.'s impact on is teams:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=paolantonio_sal&id=3328008 Owens began his career playing alongside Rice, who didn't have to brag to convince people he was the greatest receiver of all time. The 49ers won playoff games with Rice and T.O. in 1996, 1997 and 1998, advancing to the NFC Championship Game in 1997. But without Rice, Owens has hardly won a thing. During the past seven seasons, Owens has been in uniform for just one postseason victory. His lifetime playoff record is 4-7 -- and of those four wins, three came in the wild-card round. And in four of his past six postseason games -- the biggest games of his career -- this alleged superstar had 49 or fewer receiving yards. His total postseason record without Rice is 1-5. Since leaving San Francisco, Owens has not won a playoff game. The 2004 Eagles were forced to play their first two postseason games without an injured Owens and won both easily. With Owens back, they lost 24-21 to the Patriots in Super Bowl XXXIX. Owens had a big game (9 catches for 122 yards), but instead of showing disappointment about the loss, he celebrated his performance in his postgame news conference. "Nobody in the world gave me a chance," he crowed after the game. "God is good. God is great." Why so happy after a loss? Because 9-for-122 matters far more to T.O. than a 24-21 loss in the Super Bowl. Maybe that's why during the past nine years, Owens' teams have won more postseason games without him than with him.

How about this from his time in Dallas. http://cbs11tv.com/local/T.O.Terrell.2.502413.html But with reporters and television cameras surrounding his locker Monday, Owens talked for nearly 20 minutes and made his most extensive comments since the season ended with a first-round playoff loss to Seattle and Parcells decided to retire. Owens caught 85 passes for 1,180 yards and an NFL-leading 13 touchdowns -- the best season by a Cowboys receiver since Hall of Famer Michael Irvin caught 111 passes for 1,603 yards and 10 TDs in 1995, Dallas' last Super Bowl season. But Owens also led the league with 17 dropped passes. "I could have played better, but I'm not the one to really harp on why I had the season I did," Owens said. "I'm not going to say why I had the drops I had. I knew the reason, but I didn't take the time out to make that an excuse. ... I played through an injury that I didn't really talk about, I didn't care to talk about."

Let me check the NFL films archives.

Then how about bird drop soup?

We might as well put the playbook on itunes.

He also didn't mention his dropped passes that killed drives. Yep, pretty standard stuff after all.

*ALERT* New trick play just in... Fold the paper into a triangle and thump it between someone's outstreached fingers and we will SCORE!!!

Gee, I wonder why no other team has thought of that! At least T.O. isn't the only one giving away the entire offensive playbook.

That's OK, my bubble is strong enough to handle your point, whatever it is. You DID have a point in there somewhere didn't you?

I didn't know he had any broken bones but he said he was going to Rehab to get plstered. Way to take 1 (or 4 or 7) for the team.

True but in the other situations he had multi-year deals to spread his baggage dumping over. Since he only has a 1 yr deal he may feel time pressure to start dumping from the get go to make sure he dumps on everybody before the season's over. Can't leave a job half done can he?

It brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "I got Buffalo'd".

This must be his version of OTAs.

Good points all but the point of my question is who is JK to declare one man's baggage good for the team ad another's baggage bad?

Back on topic for a quick question... What makes Jim Kelly the arbitor of all things Buffalo? He says T.O.'s destructive personality flaws are "good" for the team but Mike Vick's past mistakes are "bad" for the team. Before you get your flamethrowers out understand that I would be happy if neither were on the team. My question is who died and made JK pope?

Considering the title of this thread, do you have documented proof to back up either of these 2 statements? It sounds like both of those are based on what a reasonable person would do. That description does not fit T.O.

It's a dog gone shame M-dog can't fetch any respect from this pack of whineramers. This kind of fighting is the pit of bull-stuff. It breeds aggression within the pack as they turn visciously on each other. This death match must be brought to heel. Sit up, beg for unity and roll over a new leaf. OK that should cover every Vick related pun imaginable so we're ready to shut down this racket, oops, there goes another one. I'm outta here, where's my frisbee?

Back to the original topic for this thread... Has anyone heard how the Bells are doing in the OTAs?

I'm not far from Charlotte. We have 2 seasons around here, the Hot & Humid season and the week of Christmas. Chill out dude, it's only humor.

Very nice use of emoticons. I agree that the forums are smoking right now because they can't wait to get some idea if we've improved or not. Let the good times roll.

Which week is that?

Do you think there'll be a "Let's sign Shockey" thread? It seams like somebody on this forum wants to sign every player who has been cut, released, pardoned, resuscitated, warmed over or resurrected.

What do you mean nothing to do! There's: Ice fishing Ice hockey Ice racing Ice sculpture contests Snowman building contests Snowmobile racing Snow blower duels with the neighbors And then when summer's over you can focus on winter activities (same as above)

*singing* All my EX's live in Texas ... and Philly ... and San Fran

It depends on the language used.