Sisyphean Bills

Sucks? Towards the end of the game, the Steelers pass pro was really very stout. It let them come back and win the game. On the other side, the Titans protection got worse over the course of the game as the Steelers start to dial up more blitzes -- they seemed to run out of gas.

We're talking about the Bills though. Only 8 teams in the CFL, so being in the top 10 wouldn't be bad.

You forgot that Kugler was a huge upgrade and the problem with our offense was that Coach McNally was an overrated turd -- at least that what they said back then...

So, let's get this straight. Harrison is looking into a camera complaining about someone else seeking out cameras and attention.

I think he's talking about the CFL. Just a little slow on the draw is all.

Swagger? Is that like, "After drinking heavily for several hours, the man got up from the table, swaggered across the bar, and fell through the restroom door, head on the tile and feet in the hallway, and where he lay until the coroner removed his body."

But how to balance that against the someone that hasn't played a single snap and we don't need no stinkin Pro Bowlers?

And after that they talked about their picks for the weekend, "Bills/Pats?" "This one will probably be over by halftime. Patriots." Donte Playmaker is on later...

Nobody has analyzed anything in this thread, much less overanalyzed.

I liked this bit. Q: Why did you decide to go that route? Was it a matter of your personnel? What was the thinking behind that? DJ: To be perfectly honest, which is a pretty good thing to be, I’ve always wanted to do it. It was the direction I wanted to go when I got here and, for one reason or another, we never got to it. We certainly practiced it, we just never got to it. So I do think you need certain personnel to fit it. It think our personnel does fit it and I’m excited about it. Clearly, we need to get a lot better at it, and we need to get a lot better at it fast because, once again, we know who we’re playing and they’re awfully good. Q: What is that type of personnel you need to run a no-huddle offense? DJ: You know, I think you could probably figure it out. It’s not exceptional to almost any NFL team. I think anybody’s got the personnel that could play it. So generally, in the NFL, I believe you have that personnel.

For how long?

I didn't get it from the intardnet.

Now this is the right argument. He only has leverage if the Bills actually want to win and place any value whatsoever on OL play. One could argue that they place some value on line play as they used 2 high picks on OG and targeted Hangartner in FA. As to their seriousness about winning, we have Brandon's comment, "7-9 isn't good enough," and ...

Really? The draft is over. The Bills just cut their original plan for LT. Nobody is going to trade them a good LT without raking them over the coals, and they'd deserve it. Who else is there? Do you think they'd cut Bell and sign the gimp Levi Jones who was demanding top 10 LT money? Really? When they could just bump up Bell's rookie minimum contract with some of the millions they just "saved" by cutting Dockery and Walker and not paying Peters? How many other teams are starting rookie 7th rounders at LT? None that I know of, so he is by far and away the cheapest LT in the NFL. The team is over a barrel and their options are extremely limited, should Bell decide to hold out.

Brian Billick is rarely tongue tied, but when asked about the Bills he had to pause to search for adjectives and ended up sputtering something like: "It's just wrong. I've never seen anything like it."

Well, he has absolutely insane leverage at the moment. I mean, what are the Bills going to do, cut him?

Given his record of success, why would he be?

Seriously, he really should demand a new contract. He has the Bills nutty bars in his hands. They are in such straights, they might cough up the same contract the Eagles gave Peters in under 5 minutes.

Someone like Wood?

Peters said in a recent interview that he had just told his agent to tell the Bills that he would play out his contract and that would be the end of it when his agent got the news he'd been traded. Playing hard ball with Peters did not work out in any way, shape or form for the Bills. They got one season out of Peters and it was far from his best. Yes, they saved a couple of bucks and can make a deposit in the trust funds. <golf clap>

Smart. Especially since having guys that can play period is in critically short supply.

There is a difference between griping and bitching about one's boss and actively undermining and ignoring the decisions that have been made. Griping about the boss is so common, one would have to live in a cave to have never experienced first hand. The accusations made in the Graham article suggest Schonert was bitching about the boss to his players. That is stupid, yes. I've never said or implied anything different. But, it doesn't mean that he was actively sabotaging and ignoring the decisions that were made by the boss. Unless the boss is witless, such actions would be readily apparent. Furthermore, it wouldn't take players to discover it. There are other offensive coaches and coaches meetings, so unless everyone isn't paying any attention, they would know that Turk was ignoring what was said in meetings and installing his own wild sh--. You implied it when you said, "THE PLAYERS actually went to Jauron". "THE PLAYERS" implies that it was a group. I've read nothing that suggests that. Otherwise, so what? A player went and talked to a coach about football. That happens every day. Big deal.

Hope you are right. History of anecdotal evidence notwithstanding. What? In the meaningless Detroit game? [Edit: Frustration may have continued and escalated for both sides, but that doesn't prove insubordination and it would be strange that any coach would suddenly be grossly insubordinate in the most meaningless pre-season game.] I don't believe there was an organized movement among the players. The players actually had slack jawed disbelief at the announcement. Yes, most people here subscribed to the slogan, "Fairchild is the real problem." Add Schonert to the list with Crowton and Shoop. As the merry-go-round spins...

True. But, he nailed it anyway.

Yes, that is what we are discussing in this thread. This may be true and it may not. Just because he backstabbed Jauron verbally does not mean he did not do what he was told. The fact they were of different philosophies is well established. What is unclear, uncertain, and concerning is who was actually winning out on game day. Now put this in your pipe: Schonert was fired 10 days before the start of the season and some of this stuff goes back to last year. If the OC was undermining the HC last year and during the string of horrific offensive play we all saw, why would the HC insist on keeping the OC and resist the owner that suggested the OC be dumped? Not only that, but Jauron didn't come to the decision to fire Schonert until most likely a day or less before it was carried out. Does any of that sound like a situation where the OC was blatantly not doing anything the HC asked of him and just trucking off doing his own thing? The fact is coaching staffs have disagreements. It is a pressure cooker business and tempers can fly out of control. Especially when things are going to crap. It could be taken either that Schonert was doing what Jauron told him to do and disagreed with it very strongly or it could be that Schonert was running his own "team" and ignoring Jauron or it could be a little of both.