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I didn't like letting Kromer go and you could tell the line regressed even when Juan had the talent. Bye.

Oh hell yes.

I'm likely out of my depth, but I actually think Zay is somewhat of a try-hard who really really wants to succeed. I think a coach who resonates with him would see results.

I was in Williamsville with my dad listening to the game. He was supposed to take my sister to the game but had food poisoning. The good old days.

*raises hand* I was pissed when we took Allen over Rosen. I fluctuated wildly on whether I liked or disliked Allen all offseason, changing my mind any given week. I was convinced Rosen would be good. I am now happy we have Allen and really think he might be something special.

In what world do you get the impression that the Bills front office thinks Castillo was entirely to blame for the OLine? He was a step down from Kromer, and we need talent. No one is claiming otherwise with regard to the latter.

wooooohooooo!!!!

Never should have let Kromer go.

You're happy with Center??

I do not hold this season against him, as I alluded to. I think previous OLine coaches were better.

A fantastic coach! Wow. I think he was a major step down even when he had talent.

Castillo is abysmal. I think he stays, but boy do I want him gone.

You norwegian?

Agree to disagree I guess. Especially about the bandwagon effect. Been coming to Seattle regularly since prior to the Hassleback superbowl, and now live here, and I just don't see it like that. I guess I could be wrong. I see a continually passionate fanbase that people don't like because they're passionate. If we start winning people will hate us because we're the best fans going...potentially. I could see all of our losing getting people to pity-root for us lol.

Seahawks for sure. The lunacy of the narrative that they have bad or Johnny come lately fans has been aggrevating enough for me to support them. Plus I like their style of football and I love Seattle.

The entire debate surrounding Allen is a small sample size. From what I've seen, this was the first time that these routes were repeatedly available to him, and he used them well. I've seen him overlook past these routes here and there in the past, but they were never a point of focus (from Daboll) until the beginning of this game (iirc).

I think he was 8/10 to open the Lions game using short/underneath routes.

dying.

This season has needed to happen for ages. More positivity right now than for any season in recent memory. Maybe early Trent and early Fitz? What's really different is we have a legitimate opportunity to build a contender. All hinges on Allen, but the franchise is in a good spot. Crazy how I'm discovering I'm not actually all doom and gloom in the middle of a losing season!

Agree, although I think Seattle is still chalk full of vibrant neighborhoods. Most of the nonsense within the city has been in South Lake Union. Belltown, Pioneer Square, queen anne, ballard, phinney ridge, wallingford...all awesome. Fremont is probably the most changed of the classic neighborhoods. Anyway just my take, I still love Seattle even with all the development. I can't say the same for SF, which went from an amazing city to seriously degraded (imo) within the past 20 years.

Portland is awesome, and I live in Seattle (also awesome). Jersey guy hating on it is a weird flex, but ok.

Would love to know what caused you to deduce the bolded. I also never implied that you didn't know what accuracy means, I just think (1) completion percentage is an extremely poor indicator of it, and (2) to my eye he has not been terribly inaccurate. Plenty of people disagree with me on the latter, I just don't think when they use completion percentage it bolsters their argument at all.

God I want crossman and castillo to be fired. I'm terrified they'll remain on board. Particularly Castillo.

You know, the attempts I've seen getting that info have been so flagrantly biased (both for and against) that I can't say with any certainty, but I'm not sure it's going to be a high number compared to the rest of the NFL. I just don't think his misses would be an outlier if we were able to document which throws missed the mark when he had an intended target. I use "able" because look at that throw he "missed" to Zay in the endzone where he expected Zay to stop and turn, when he instead kept running. A missed read by Josh, not an inaccurate pass, though. Either way, in my opinion completion percentage is a legit gripe, inaccuracy seems to be a case of poor correlation and word choice.

I agree with the premise, that numbers do matter. I also think it's perfectly legitimate to question the low completion percentage (and/or have a debate as to what factors play into it), but I have to say, through this whole process I've been surprised at how everyone seems to equate this stat with accuracy. I don't think Allen is inaccurate. I do think he needs to complete more passes, but I don't think accuracy is the culprit. I think he needs to keep progressing in his understanding of NFL defenses, needs to take the easy yards when they're there, and hopefully have more plays at his disposal that emphasize the short game (it worked quite well with an 80% completion percentage to kickoff the Lions game).