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This is awesome! Nice work! Instinctively, I knew we have gone through the gauntlet so to speak and it did get much easier, but these numbers are much more extreme that I thought. I love the methodology too. I'm hopeful that we get to at least 8-8 this year. That would mean a pretty good rest of the way, but I think it's doable and it starts this coming weekend against KC. Unfortunately I don't think that gets us into the playoffs, but you never know. There's really no clear cut 6th seed emerging. As of right now, I think SD would have it.

I think it's a close game, like the rest of them. We match up pretty well. 27-23 Saints. So 4

Ummmm...ok?

I think my original point was that I'm fairly happy with where the bills are as opposed to starting to think the Bills are serious contenders for a playoffs spot. However, they do legitimately have a shot. The thing is I really feel like this team has a different mindset than prior teams. That strip sack by Mario is a play we've seen good teams make and make against the Bills for a decade. Snatching victory from the jaws of defeat. It's a very significant step in the right direction. Helps this young team learn how to win.

Eh, maybe. It was late and I was sick if listening to the word Manning! One is an event that happened in the past and one is a future event.

While the attempt at humor is always appreciated, it's misused in this case. If someone said something to the effect of, "if we'd only have beaten the Bengals and Browns we'd be in the last WC spot" it would make more sense.

Next week is the toughest game left on the sched. Rest of the season are all winnable games.

Agreed. No need to get crazy here. Just looked at the standings and saw three teams ahead of Buffalo for the WC. The Jets, the Chargers, and the Dolphins. None of these teams are great and we still have the jets and fins at home.

There's a long LONG way to go but I'm pretty satisfied with the progress of this team. That was a game we haven't won in a while. A road, division, win against a decent team. By my calc we are 1 game back of the final WC spot. Lots of teams in that mix and it's early, but it's nice.

Aside from the obvious things already mentioned in this thread, we just seem to lack guys that can make clutch plays in big moments. The Hogan drop in OT on 3rd down is a perfect example. Gotta have that catch there. It's not a perfect throw, but at that point in the game the catch needs to be made. On the other side of the ball you have Dane Razzenbacher (whatever his last name is) making a one handed catch on a long conversion to keep alive a drive.

Way way way to early to say. So far both had had ups and downs. Revisit this question in about 2 years and then we might know the answer.

It's a discouraging outcome, IMO. The second EJ got hurt and Tuel came in I was thinking that if EJ was out for any extended period of time, Freeman was the only QB with the real potential to carry the Bills through that time period. They had a small advantage because they played on Thursday night and the other teams were getting ready for the weekend games. I was hoping that they would put a good offer on the table for Freeman, it's not like he was an unknown QB. What's the big deal if they gave him a 1 year, 4m dollar deal (that's backup money anyway). Then they have an excellent 1-year insurance policy. I really REALLY hope I am wrong, but I just don't think Thad Lewis is getting it done. You can't consistently start CFL caliber QBs in the NFL.

You love that Thad Lewis is our starting QB?

Very disappointing

I would love to see Tuel (or anyone) succeed for buffalo, but I honestly think that a QB with the skill set and experience of Josh Freeman would outperform Tuel with 5 days to learn 10 plays.

100%! In addition to all these excellent points, it's literally a zero risk proposition for the bills. He sucks or acts like a cancer, you cut him. You're no worse off that you would have been with Tuel. He's excellent, then maybe you let Manuel heal as a conservative pace and let EJ learn a little (similar to what's been done in the NFL for decades prior to the last couple years). He's ok, then he's a good fill in for a few weeks and EJ comes back as the starter. They honestly have to sign Freeman.

Where are you getting the idea that Freeman will do any of those things you referenced? That sounds like blind speculation. Frankly it sounds a little unfair. If you have some evidence of this, you should definitely share it.

Not sure what's delusional about wanting a capable QB during EJs absence. IMO, Josh is the most capable. If we let Tuel play, chances are that game on 12/8 doesn't mean anything except who get a better pick in '14 draft

Absolutely agree. In the Freeman thread someone posted a highlight tape of him. Wow! Has a cannon for an arm.

How'd that workout for RGIIi and the redskins.

I certainly don't know firsthand, but read on ESPN this morning that Caldwell has zero interest in him. They have Teddy Bridgewater in their sights.

I'll tell you why this is a great opportunity for freeman. 1) the way he went out in TB leaves a lot of questions about his character. Teams are going to be reluctant to sign him to a long term deal as it stands right now. He goes to a team and is a good team player, works hard, and gets a good endorsement from a new coach, then it makes the issue in TB look more like Schiano. 2) He's getting paid by the Bucs anyway, so anything else he gets is gravy 3) He comes to buffalo ASAP and he's guaranteed to play at least 2 games, probably more. 4) he's going to a team with a QB who has a similar skill set to him. The offense should be a decent fit. 5) we play Tampa this year.

There is no Jacksonville opportunity

Agreed. Now with two bum knees and being out for a few weeks there's no excuse not to bring in a veteran. Pickings are slim, but gotta do better than Beck or Leinart.

uh...you do realize that McGahee averaged 2.8 yards a carry, right? Weeden is their starting QB and much MUCH better than Tuel. There is a reason he was a first round pick. Not saying those guys are pro bowlers, but McGahee wasn't very good last night and Weeden is decent. I think the correlation for the Browns resurgence has much more to do with Gordon coming back than their QB.