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100% knows the system and is a locker room fit, is older (29 turns 30 in January) but not ancient, and is going to be coming up on two years removed from his last serious injury. He's a starting caliber option which is what the Bills needed. Not gonna take CB off he draft need list but it makes the Bills at least a little less desperate there which is a positive.

Jets are tearing it all down and have no direction at QB. Fins are heading for an implosion and are already in a tough cap situation. Two divisional rivals that are not likely doing too well. The Pats could also still be a year away and if Maye isn't the guy or isn't quite good enough then it's looking like a few more years of dominance in the division.

Is there any way to get a split of what his grades and stats were when he was with the Ravens? According to Ravens fans and some pundits he looked a lot better when he joined the Ravens later in the season. Rams fans said he looked completely washed.

He was terrible with the Rams but Ravens fans and pundits liked they way he played there. Up to could be doing a lot of heavy lifting.

I thought it was more likely the Bills would bring back Douglas as their veteran starting option at corner but Tre while a surprise isn't that shocking. Tre is a bit younger and while he's got an injury history he's gonna be close to two years removed from injury. Tre looked a lot better with the Ravens according to their fans and pundit so while he flamed out with the Rams he ended the season strong.

Fox owning it makes sense in terms of how this is functioning. The USFL 40 years ago was the only spring league to ever have success and that league only had a few franchises that actually made money most of the league lost money. That was in an era when the NFL salaries hadn't exploded to a point where it became fiscally unviable to even try to compete for top football talent without having a massive media contract pouring money in. The USFL investors burnt about 600 million in todays dollars on the league. The USFL was able to get top college talents and some NFL players for salaries that adjusted for inflation would be 1.5-5 million a season. If the UFL or any spring league could bring in first round level talents for 1-3 million a season topping out at 4-5 million a season (All in todays dollars) that would be doable for a big network. Now you would have to pour in Billions yearly to get these talents and poach NFL players. And only the Saudi's who could burn 10-50 billion on such an insane venture could afford to do so and they likely wouldn't make money on it. So for a current style spring league to be successful you have to find some sort of way to make the league successful with third rate talent. Which I think is a massive challenge unless you have the backing of the NFL in some way and even then like NFL Europe that would require burning tens of millions yearly for likely decades.

USFL has some success doing Spring Football in fact their downfall was moving away from spring football and attempting to move head to head. I think the NFL should have stuck with NFL Europe. I think if the NBA which is a much smaller league could have the foresight to stick with the WNBA for decades subsidizing the product despite losses year after year the NFL could have stuck with NFL Europe. It would have served many purposes and seen growth once the NFL did intentional games more regularly. The NFL pinching penny’s cost them a chance to turn that into something

I too don’t understand the economics of it. UFL games do eat up a lot of time and there’s hope to grow the league. Maybe Fox and these other networks own a piece of the league?

Organizations tank, players don't tank. Players are always playing hard to get their next paycheck.

Prime Moulds would makes this a dam near unstoppable offense. Moulds would open up everything with his ability to work the mid-range game and the deep ball. He was nearly a prototypical outside WR1 and that's with mid-level QB play at best. He wasn't a massive burner but he had enough speed to get open down the field and get over the top of average speed DB's. He was such a technician with route running. Moulds was putting up 1200-1300 yard seasons somewhat consistently with Doug Flutie, Rob Johnson, and a slightly past his prime Bledsoe. Give Josh Moulds on the outside, Palmer/Keon on the other side and Shakir in the slot and watch Josh cook. I hear what you are saying. But I do think Moulds is a more physical WR than Diggs. Moulds was 2 inches taller and 35 pounds heavier than Diggs with comparable good but not great speed. That's in addition to both players being master route runners with very strong hands. I think Moulds being just a somewhat bigger version of Diggs would take that elite production Diggs was giving and make it even more consistent esp in bigger playoff games where the games tend to be more physical.

Effectively a 700 point evaluation would put it at the 26th overall pick which is a divisional round eliminated team. So you would be looking at picks 26, 30, 56, and 62 for pick 4. Now you could argue on the margins that the Bills would have to include some more late or mid round picks but as I said for an estimate I don't think it is far off. And considering that a future 1st hold the value of possibly being the first overall pick due to injuries then I think a 700 point evaluation is fair.

The draft value chart puts a future 1st at 700 points which is approximately worth the 26th pick which is valued at 700 points exactly. The reason the value chart puts it at 700 vs. being worth one round less is that a future 1st has a chance to be worth 3000 points. The value chart I put it was an estimate so it's flexible but I think as an approximation of what the Bills would have to give up to trade up into the top 5 it is fair (pick 30, 56, 62 and a future 1st) you can quibble if the Bills would have to include other late round selections or not but I think it is in the range of what a trade would cost.

Every team drafts busts (and I think Keon and Kincaid are far from busts) so just trade away every pick you have because every team has busts is not a good strategy

The farthest Hunter is falling is likely pick 4. If you do the traditional value chart the Bills package to go up that far in the draft would look like. I would give the Bills having to pay a slight premium as a margin of error. Bills get (1875 point total) Pick 4 Travis Hunter (1800 points) A 2026 4th round pick (75 points) Pats Get (1944 point total) Pick 30 (620 points) Pick 56 (340 points) Pick 62 (284 points) 2026 1st round pick (700 points) That's a steep price to pay for such a trade up in my opinion esp for a non-QB. I get the value Hunter would bring as a CB and a weapon for 15ish snaps a game at WR too so it's a 2 for 1 kind of deal. But I don't think any non-QB is worth it esp for this roster that has several other needs short and long term.

Dude ***** up his draft chances by validating character concerns, just shows insanely bad his judgement must be. Not that he's a lot cause but I think every team is moving him down their board somewhat.

The Bills "over investing" at RB was more of a 2000's thing. They drafted Henry in round 2, Willis in round 1, Lynch in round 1, and Spiller in round 1 all in a 10 draft span. I get RB's have a short shelf life but 4 picks in the first two rounds (with 3 being in round 1) in a 10 draft period is excessive. Especially since 3 out of 4 of those RB's were fairly good players and the team found an undrafted gem in Fred Jackson. The Spiller pick and the Willis picks the more egregious examples of just losing a valuable pick at a position losing value.

Fully agree, run Cook into the ground (as in use him as much as you want to reasonably so) for 2025 and then let him walk in free agency if he gets a good offer you can get a comp pick and draft a RB to pair with Ty/Davis. But for 2025 when you are in a Super Bowl or bust season use all the weapons you have, no need to lower your production at RB for 2026 purposes. Especially because RB while not as "plug and play" as people make it seem is a position where rookies have come in and produced fairly regularly.

The NFL is the ultimate Quantity over Quality (outside of QB) league. I know it’s easy to look at the Bills roster which doesn’t have many glaring holes and think adding 3-4 higher end prospects will be what the team needs. However, I think the Bills will have 7-9 roster spots where rookies can make the roster but are needed for depth/development. Looking at the roster and I can see the following areas where rookies can make the roster. 1- Corner - Probably the teams only glaring need 2- DT- A less glaring need but a need 3- EDGE- AJE and Bosa are free agents need for depth and development. 4- Safety- Hamlin and Forest are on one year deals development is needed. 5- WR- Bills could use more short term pop and depth while also having a player develop. 6- LB - Milano is older and the Bills LB’s frequently banged up more depth here is needed. 7- TE3- A bit niche but the Bills don’t have Morris so they need something behind Knox/Kincaid 8- Punter- Bills punting options aren’t great could use a body here. 9- Offensive line- Team is set 1-9 along the offensive line but they usually carry ten. Always good to cycle in another oline prospect. I would also argue the Bills could roster a second drafted corner and DT. It’s a roster that in addition to the 4 front line needs at DT/CB/WR/DE has 4-5 depth/development needs at S/LB/DT/CB/TE/OL and a niche need at punter.

Honestly too much of a good thing is a bad thing. Consistent Thursday games are one of the worst things to happen to the NFL. Before then seeing NFL games kind of felt "special". The week had a great flow to it. Sunday was the mega day for football and then you had Monday Night Football to close out the schedule and give you one last taste. Then Tuesday everything was recapped and football reseeded a bit until the weekend. Now the Thursday games jammed in the middle of the week just make everything non-stop NFL. Add in X-Mas games and Saturday games later in the season and it is just too much at times.

Also it isn't like Addison is on the last year of his rookie deal and is seeking a massive contract. He's got 2 years left plus an option on his rookie deal. Those are exactly the cost controlled players you hope to draft. This just doesn't add up.

We saw just how flat out dominant the defense was when Daquon was healthy, a little bit younger, and performing as a big time run stuffer and pocket collapsing DT in 2022-2023. It was a big time difference maker for the defense. A big boy like Grant or Harmon would make a big impact for all 3 levels of the defense.

Edwards to me is the likely odd man out. Do they feel like they can have Anderson or SVPG replace him (SVPG to Center and McGoven back to guard)? I think McGovern is the better player between him and Edwards so if they like what they have in Anderson or SVPG then they likely would chose to move on from Edwards in that scenario. I don't think your Dawkins take is that hot. Although I do think it is more likely Dawkins is here through 2026 as the LT. Maybe they kick him inside? Good problem to have.

I think its a solid group. I understand why someone might not like the unit but I think the Bills staff is probably not gonna make a major investment there. After a shaky start I liked how Bishop came on as he got more starts. A full off-season to work on things and a camp/pre-season to get a better feel for the game and understand the system and I think Bishop is gonna be a good player. Rapp is a underrated starter and I think having Forrest compete there is underrated competition add as Forrest adds some nice athleticism to the unit. Hamlin is a solid backup, he also is a willing special teams player which is a positive to have on the bench as it allows the spot to have value on special teams. So adding a mid-rounder into the mix solidifies the unit longer term to get a prospect in there. I don't hate the idea of adding Simmons but he is going to be 32 this upcoming season and safeties decline around that age. I don't think he's going to represent as much of an upgrade as you think.

I think the Bills are "set" at safety after they add a mid-round pick there. I think Hamlin adds depth while Forrest is their competition for Rapp/Cole. I think they will add a mid-rounder for depth/development given that Hamlin and Forrest are on one year deals.

Context is key here. For one the draft class is very strong at DT so if you can get a high end DT at pick 30 when that caliber of DT usually goes in the top 15-20 makes the longer term value in roster construction good. Also the Bills run defense in the regular season and against the Ravens in the second half in the playoffs was at times very vulnerable up the middle. The DT position is also longer term not that strong Larry O and Daquon are older so there's a need to have a good young player there. I say this as someone whose also very concerned about the corner spot however, DT is also the teams second biggest defensive need and if you can get a high end prospect there that's a good use of a pick in my opinion.