Bill Murray

id take Foles for a 2nd in a heartbeat. If im the Browns, i would make that play too. Get him, draft Barkley 1st. Trade back from #4 and maybe take Lamar Jackson later in the 1st as a developmental guy with loads of extra picks.

Bc Nate can’t take us to the playoffs and TT can.

The jets have a top pick. Trade to the bills and grab all the skill positions around KK with the booty

Even if we draft one of the top guys, we should keep TT and start him for another playoff run. When we are out of contention the new era fully begins. Unless of course, the rookie beats TT outright, which would be ideal, but is unlikely.

Lamar Jackson runs a 4.29 40yd dash...

I think our best chance is if the Browns want to sign a vet QB (Cousins, Foles, a Minn QB) and draft S. Barkley #1 overall. That gives them their offense. Then they prob would trade back from #4 for as much draft capital this year as they can get to fill the holes. So maybe they would trade #4 for our two firsts this year and some other picks / Glenn. At #4, we will get at least Mayfield, and could get one of the top two guys if something odd happens w the Giants or Colts picks.

well given this statement is a fact, it cant be wrong. it may be misguided, but it isnt a wrong statement.

Well he is the all time leading Bills passer for completion percentage, so that says something about accuracy (and about previous Bills QBs). Now throws not attempted is another theoretical stat altogether. Generally, I wish everyone would stop being so polorized regarding Taylor. He is a slightly above average starter, and has had a good cap number the past couple years. He isn’t a top 10 QB in the league. It’s pretty straight forward. People treat it like the Devine mystery or something where you have crusaders and atheists both willing to die for their beliefs.

The cap hit is due to his extension he signed being guaranteed for injury.

why not go for Carlos Hyde as the #2 back instead. think that would be a strong 1, 2 punch and actually feasible

Got it, just expected to http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/11/report-rams-expected-to-franchise-tag-sammy-watkins/

Didnt Sammy just get the franchise tag??

the more and more i think about it, they should give dennison another year. complete turnover in the WR corps, a QB not fit for the system, etc. I think some of the playcalling was suspect indeed, but its tough with these circumstances for he to be a one and done. I would say though, he would be on the hot seat in year two and if there isnt improvement he should know he will be sent packing.

agree, seems us moving to 4 for the browns to reload on picks is the move

IDIOT!!! why go for luck when we can package our picks and get Tom Brady from 2010??? hes even younger than Tom Brady today!!!! buh bye Patriots domination!

not to pile on here, but just curious what leads you to conclude he is good? What has he shown, specifically, this year that would lead you to the conclusion he should start over a vet (cousins or smith) or one of the top rated rookies?

I'm NOT in the trade the farm for a rookie QB camp. That said, with the Browns having 1 and 4, I think you might be able to trade them these two picks and next years 1st to go to #1 overall. The Browns know they will get a QB at 4, and 3 firsts is hard to pass up. from the Bills perspective, the extra 1st this year is a gift given we still drafted White, and w 2 2nds and a 3rd we can still acquire pieces on defense and the OL.

i mean, this is a pretty strong rookie class. White 100% deserves consideration, and probably would receive some 1st place ROY votes if he were in, but its hard to argue against any of the other candidates as well. You can argue white and Lattimore are neck and neck, but its hard to argue Lattimore doesnt deserve to be included at all. Is the number fixed at 5 finalists or something? For the Bills, im sure they couldnt be happier. T White looks like a astud, and Dawkins looks like an absolute steal in his own right.

Anyone here have a view on who is better, Tyrod Taylor or Nathan Peterman?

i would give up a 1st and a 2nd to move up this year to match the fish, skins, and ravens. i wouldnt give up two firsts this year to match the Jets however. Honestly, im not sold on any of these guys including Rosen and Darnold. When everyone thinks about trading up for the franchise guy, they imagine trading up for Luck or Peyton Manning. I think locks like that are very rare and i dont think any of these guys are locks. Looking at QBs taken in the top 10 since 2000, its very hit or miss. I think you have to take one if you are within striking distance, but you cant bet the farm on it IMO: QBs taking in the top 10 since 2000 Mike Vick David Carr Joey Harrington Carson Palmer Byron Leftwich Eli Manning Philip Rivers Alex Smith Vince Young Matt Leinart JaMarcus Russell Matt Ryan Matt Stafford Mark Sanchez Sam Bradford Cam Newton Jake Locker Blaine Gabbert Andrew Luck RGIII Ryan Tannehill <- i was shocked to see he was taken 8th overall Blake Bortles Jameis Winston Marcus Mariota Jared Goff Carson Wentz Mitchell Trubisky Patrick Mahomes

yes. They may not seek Buffalo out, but they also may not cross them off the list without considering like they would the browns, for example.

if tyrod plays very poorly, its likely we lose. that is the same for the 31 other teams. If you are going into this expecting 57 yards passing, you probably shouldnt bother watching Sunday.

we need to get the lead early forcing them to pass more than they want. On D, crowd the line and hope White and Gains can hold their own. Hyde and poyer will need to make tackles early. Our only advantage it seems is Jax has a poor run defense by the numbers, hence why they traded for Marcell. I think if we get a lead and then start gashing them on the ground with it, they will panic and start trying to throw too much.

Would you trade T White and a first next year for Mahomes at this point? If not, flies in the faced of the trade up into the top 10 and draft the 3rd available QB crowd (assuming CLE and NYG go QB at 1 and 2)...

Yes. We havent fully explored Tyrod's performance in white vs blue vs color rush jerseys yet either. SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT!!!