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Um, wrong. The Steelers have two-a-days. They have morning practices which are closed and not open to the public. The calendar you linked to is the schedule for the open public practices, only. Tony Dungy teams, along with Marv's, and Tomlin's for that matter, were/are perennial Super Bowl contenders and playoff teams. The 2009 Bills are a very much different team. They have never made the playoffs under Jauron nor have they had a winning record under his tenure. Most importantly though, the crux of the issue, is that this team has several key positions that will need to be filled by rookies and as a result they will require more repetition then the veterans. Rookies can practice, veterans will get days off ... this is what most teams do that have grueling training camp schedules (to avoid wear and tear to the veterans). Both points were established in earlier posts in this thread.

Huh?! So instead of staying on topic, you now resort to that post. Pathetic.

No. I want you to write a letter to the editor of the Chronicle to have a petition made to have practice universally banned. It should work, because the D&C says so, case closed. FYI: Allen Iverson will be the first to sign.

Other teams will do the same, have a walk through, when they have a single afternoon practice scheduled that day.

No, rather since you have stated as much, that you do not value "practice" and believe that nothing can be learnt from it, any discussion with you is moot. Attempting to quantify the value of game action over practice is an absurd attempt by you, which lessens any point you attempt to make. Your quantifications are based solely in innuendo and not in fact. If what you imply is even remotely true teams would only schedule opposing team scrimmages and preseason games and no practice during training camps.

FYI: The Steelers had two-a-days in 2008, they have closed morning practices, therefore that number is difficult to determine if not published elsewhere. The Titans had more then one, because Jauron had the least last year which was only two. I believe they also have closed door morning practices and as a result it may be difficult to quantify.

Debunked?! No you still don't get the point. Rookies need practice time to get better. Rookies who are expected to start need even more practice. The Bills have rookies who are expected to start, yet have less practice time scheduled. I read Tuckers article and read it when it first came out, if what he said was universally accepted, then two-a-days would be obsolete. If what you say, that team meetings, unit meetings and film sessions are as important as physical practice, then why practice at all? The Bills probably win every game on the chalk board. Every team has film time, and some teams practice more to implement what they learnt in those meetings. Also, really a "double" impact for rookies, is that based upon the same facts that "debunked" my point, per you.

Exactly, as my initial post noted. It's not a question of a correlation to wins and losses alone, the Bills are different from the Patriots and Giants this year etc. Unlike them, the Bills rookies will be needed to contribute, especially along the offensive line. Dick should have back loaded and had more two-a-days in the middle part and end of camp, not for the veterans, but for the rookies who are needed to be contributors, immediately. If you are concerned about injuries and fatigue then you give veterans days off. Rookies need to practice to learn technique and discipline. Because Jauron did not do this, Maybin, Wood, Levitre and Byrd will, as Jauron stated; "miss work that's hard to make up." The entire organization knew that they would be granted an early start date for training camp because of the Hall Of Fame game therefore the front office had to be extra diligent to sign rookies earlier then other teams. Since the rookie salary pecking order has yet to materialize, the Bills decided not to set the market by signing and slotting them all. As a result, none of the Bills top 4 rookies will have experienced a two-a-day, they have lost practice time. Again, Dick was audacious to say that the rookies will "miss work that's hard to make up." Well ... why then is it hard to make up? Because you front loaded training camp with only two two-a-days in the first weekend which rookie contract hold outs would miss out on! Jauron has the power to rectify a lack of practice time for the rookies with a little foresight in scheduling!

For you, no I won't. Again, you probably would not understand the post given it will contain a series of words and numbers, together. I "cherry picked" teams that have won the last two Super Bowls and the team that dominates the division the Bills play in, but then again you probably didn't realize that (I know, I know, the comprehension thing is difficult for you).

Jauron's approach to practice makes me believe that Jauron does not seem to value the traditional definition of practice. His is like Allen Iverson's, only from another angle. The Bills draft and sign "intelligent" football players because this coaching staff puts the real work into film study and meetings. As a result intelligent players are needed to digest this and practice is used only to perform execution and not repetition (hence, training indoors during inclement weather although you're expected to play in the cold snow in the upcoming week). The by-product of this is the wear and tear on players is mitigated and players love him for it, he treats them as men, values their intelligence, and not their brawn like every other coach has likely done to them since high-school. It's an Ivy league approach to football, and not the traditional, blue collar approach that fans in Buffalo want and what Football folklore is based upon. It's an approach that is more pompous then lunch pail. Unfortunately for Jauron, he has no track record to show that this approach works. He may receive accolades from former players for his approach, but the results do not show the success of it.

... And I was the one who forced you to reply with piss-poor drive by post too. Your post: Which was shown to be irrelevant given the Giants training camp schedule in comparison to the Bills, which starts 8 days later yet has more practice time. You can go on drive-by posting with nothing but your opinion which lacks fact, contains lies and is worthless.

Sigh, again your lack of comprehension and phonic skills are piss-poor. Faulty premise?! You have shown a lack of basic comprehension skills to determine whether a premise is faulty. The Bills start an extra 8 days before a team like the Giants and still have fewer practices scheduled ... Did you miss Post #10 or can we add simple grade school mathematics as a problem area for you too. The Patriots have not released their entire training camp schedule so by you stating that the Bills "will have more total preparation time than the Patriots" is a lie, and leads me to conclude that you likely lie and give innuendo's to justify your piss-poor drive-by posts.

Knock it off. You are obtuse. You stated the absurd, that preseason games are more valuable then practice time, if that was the case then teams would only schedule scrimmages and pre-season games, which in itself violates player union agreements let alone gives teams zero time to implement schemes. Your lack of comprehension skills is your problem which you have to live with.

According to who? Then why do teams need to practice, just have preseason games every week of training camp, as you think they are more valuable.

And the Patriots will have had as much if not more practice time come the Bills first game. What are the Patriots practicing for to have scheduled as any practices as the Bills up to August 5th? The Bills are the one playing the extra GAME on August 9th. Really, "clowning around", then what the heck is the Players Union regulating practice time since, as you say they just clown around. What were the Giants complaining about to the Players Union about Coughlin's training camp two years ago, what they were trying to squeeze too many players into a clown car, too much seltzer in the eye, how about the clown shoes were too tight? Could you? Patriots haven't released their complete training camp schedule. So now I will "bother" and educate you on the obvious, The Giants have scheduled 25 practice times in a 17-day period and start later, August 3rd. The Bills started training camp August 25th, a full 8 days before the Giants, and have scheduled 23 practice times over a 26 day period and have one more pre season GAME, like you stated. They have one more GAME and still have LESS practice time scheduled then the Giants.