chris heff

You keep pounding away at this. In three different threads I've asked the question when has tanking, in the NFL, as a planned thought out strategy prior to the season beginning ever been executed, resulting in the creation of a dynasty? The two examples are the Colts and Cowboys, both have been debunked. So know I ask give is an example?

I got a text from my nephew today, he lives in an Atlanta suburb. His son was in gym class when the teacher asked another student if he had low self esteem, the student replied "no, why?" the teacher said "because you're wearing a Bills tee shirt".

In two other threads I've asked for an example of a calculated complete tank that worked. Two examples have been given, the Colts suck for Luck, which as I stated earlier doesn't happen without the injury to Payton. The only other moves they made were to cut some aging over paid players. The other example is the Cowboys trading Herschel Walker. Aikman and Irvin were already on the roster, they didn't trade them. They also knew they had already forfeited their first round pick by taking Steve Walsh in supplemental draft. By the time they made the trade they had already lost five in a row. I don't believe either of these are planned tanks.

Trading Watkins looks like a good move.

I did look it up, what's documented is that they didn't trade Michael Irvin.

Name them?

Not a tank, they traded Herschel Walker.

I'll ask again, give me one example of an NFL team planning and executing a tank that worked?

This just proves how stupid they are.

A song or a flag doesn't define us, we do. You react to those symbols the way you choose. Isn't that the point of the grand experiment? Whether some stands kneels or lays down is not important, it is minutiae. It's like having an argument about the Civil War. Everything other than the fact that it was a war about whether people should be allowed to own other people is minutiae.

They have infected spleen stem cells into his sternum. He'll be ready for week one.

Remember when Donahoe blamed his customers for having to fire Gregg Williams?

I laughed so hard I ruptured my spleen.

Haters gotta hate.

They believe they can use some cells from his spleen to grow a new toe.

Sorry for the kid, let me know when Brady and Belichick are gone.

Why is Crossman still here? Every ST play is a penalty. McDermott has not brought discipline. Was there nine or ten penalties? WR position is much worse without Watkins.

You know who is terrible? McDermott. Five penalties in first quarter.

We agree sort of, but unless they purposely broke Payton's neck it was absolutely thrust upon them.

I agree with you, but there are a lot of people on his site wishing for a total tank. I don't understand why, I can't think of any instances of that strategy working in the NFL. So I asked the question. As for McBeane I'm still on the fence, these guys aren't Belichick.

I guess, but didn't the Jets under Rex with Sanchez go to two straight AFC championship games? Do you really want to use that as a gage of success? And with Manning hurt did the Colts have much of a choice? The tank was kind of forced on them. I still can't come up with one example of a team planning and executing a tank and having it result in any kind of long term success.

I can't open the link, but what has having Andrew Luck done for them? They haven't won anything. And at times have been pretty bad.

This is a serious question, I can't think of an example of an NFL franchise tanking where it worked?

So then QB not really important? It's all about the coach. Or is it all about accumulating draft picks? I guess if Taylor isn't the guy no need to waste an early pick on a QB, just load up on WR and CB. Easy to find a QB in the late rounds.

You seriously think that the Patriots success happens with or without Brady?